How can FS pvp with ohter class

[alexwang]

Play a FS lvl 75 but i wonder FS can PVP other class . I alway lost when PVP with Warrior ,Blader & FB .:bawling:, oh forgot FA also .So sad :( how can FS PVP with other class :stupido3:

[Dragonhand]

Using brains... Good Critic rate + critic dmg plus a good use of BOJ and the best DOT skills at your hand. Duno if your FS full mage or hybrid so...

[Ragnak1q337]

Using brains... Good Critic rate + critic dmg plus a good use of BOJ and the best DOT skills at your hand. Duno if your FS full mage or hybrid so...

Maybe im blind but for me it looks like an FS forum than i dont know about you but my FS do not have any DOT skills LoL(damage over time am i correct ?). BOJ for pvp ?
well maybe if you are full magic FS that could work but not on dex build for that matter(imo). Back to question, you just need better gear then your opponent nothing more can be done(well if you are both same lvl/ranks/skill) or great luck + good crt dmg gear. FS is pretty crappy for pvp so you can only wait till new update(maybe it will power up FS a bit).

[alexwang]

Why FS pvp with Magic skill i think it really weak and it end up at Rank A.Expert. If i dun wrong Sword skill is the main way for FS .

[SinergyX]

Because simple, Shielders have rather low atk, combined with a Storm crush that has a really long casting time.

They have roughly a equal ammount of magic, but A.expert cannons can be spammed way faster and thus increasing your chances of crits. Added that its ranged.

Its sad that the 'stronger' Shielder actualy is a magic version, although some still stick to sword and perform not that bad.

[alexwang]

ok lets me try. But someone can post a Video about the way FS pvp ?

[SinergyX]

There isnt really a guideline how to pvp, kinda like FB who needs to adept his style based on his opponent.

Wizards that use blink/fade/dash can be a nightmare if you are melee, shielder can counter this by using cannons. Add their rather high defence to take damage, they have strong bets against it.

Versus melee it depends on combo's, who can break it and who can knock you down.

You can even combine, start ranged, try a knockdown, go melee and finish with Break. (aka the hybrids).

But most of all, it depend on gear. Gear makes the difference in winning or loosing, where combo, skill set and playerskill are part of.

[angelwatch]

the only way you can win is by being lucky.
There is no way you could beat another build that is equaly equiped & ranked purely by your att or mag stats, cuz lets face it our stats suck big time.

You can only hope you critical enough to kill your oponent, but here you depend purely on luck. You could do 1 pvp and crit 4 times in a row, wich is a certain win (atleast in my case) or you could do 4 pvps and only crit 1nce (altho thats rather unlikely)
So when you accept a pvp, keep your fingers crossed ;)

and about the video: try searching for korean movies on youtube, cuz i never found any decent pvp movies from shielder on our version.

[alexwang]

my gear now is : Osnium armor suit, Osnium Armorboots +3 + 2 slot + 50hp each slot , Osnium Armorglove +3 + 2 slot + 6 def each slot ( i dun remember much ),Osnium Armorhelm +3 + 2 slot + 5 % crits rate each slot , a Osnium blade + 3 + 2 slot + 5 crits rate each slot and Lapis crystal + 3 + 2 slot + 5% crits damg each slot , is that good ?

[SinergyX]

You sure it is all crit.rate or also crit.dmg?

If its all crit.rate, add a few rings (luck 10% crit.rate) and you should do quite alot crits in a row :) Believe somewhere else in the FS topic was a interesting part about crit vs amp, where crit was doing better.

[crushy]

well im FS lvl 99 nad u need only rings for critical RATE andamulet of guard, =)

[Ahura]

At low levels, every one killed me so i found it pointless to even try.

At Lv120+ i stood a good chance but still lost about 90% of the fights.

At Lv150 i changed to Magic and on Jupiter there are only 2 characters that can kill me.

But when i do raise my Def to 900+, those two guys won’t be able to kill me either.

PvP with FS there is only one option, Pure Magic and use Cannons and believe me, I tested just about every build you can imagine.

[Smithyboy]

Ahura, I've seen you're thread where you was testing all the different Builds and believe you are right but it's kind of sad that an FS has to take that build.
Considering the primary aspect of an FS is Sword :( hopefully in Ep2 they fix FS.(very doubtful I know)

[angelwatch]

less doubtfull then you think (i hope ;)) if we get the buffs togheter with the other new skills.

So the hybrid build didnt quit satisfy if suppose, ahura ?

[Ahura]

So the hybrid build didnt quit satisfy if suppose, ahura ?


Was good for hunting but in pvp I was using cannon all the time and I even made my Gmaster lv20 etc but 5x cannon was better so in the end I stopped being stubborn and went full magic.

The problem for me was that I wanted to use Sword skill; that was why i made FS in 1st place but sword FS it is so weak that is unbelievable so I had no choice but to change to magic for PvP.

I am not really happy about being forced to change to magic for pvp but at least I kill people now.

[Dragonhand]

I think sword isnt thta bad at all at least in the midle lvls 70-90. But I gess that DOT is better using magic. Its sad since sword skills are preaty cool locking :D

[SinergyX]

Why u keep calling it DoT? Either DPS or DPC, but shielders dont have a thing called DoT.

In computer games and wargames, damage over time (DoT) is a type of effect that causes damage in regular increments (or at a steady rate) for a limited amount of time. This damage can be equal at all increments, or it may build up or diminish in power while the effect remains. If a unit is dealing damage over time but must continue with a certain action to allow the damage to continue, it is referred to as a "Channeling" action, such as a "channeling spell".

Damage per second (DPS), a term typically used for certain computer games, describes the average rate of damage inflicted over time.

[rothmans]

IMO, FS should be magic based to even out the balance of the game, 3 sword classes and 3 magic classes. The only problem is that the skills themselves don't give you much clue to that and make you think that sword is actually better when it's not.

[Dragonhand]

Why u keep calling it DoT? Either DPS or DPC, but shielders dont have a thing called DoT.

In computer games and wargames, damage over time (DoT) is a type of effect that causes damage in regular increments (or at a steady rate) for a limited amount of time. This damage can be equal at all increments, or it may build up or diminish in power while the effect remains. If a unit is dealing damage over time but must continue with a certain action to allow the damage to continue, it is referred to as a "Channeling" action, such as a "channeling spell".

Damage per second (DPS), a term typically used for certain computer games, describes the average rate of damage inflicted over time.

For your information DOT is dmg over time and nothing else. DOT= Total dmg/time. Don't mistake poison/bleed efects, they add DOT but DOT means DOT not Poison bleed...

Imo some sword skills are better for PVE, even with a lower DPS some sowrd skills have better range then canons+BOJ, still BOJ is an exelent PVE skill, these considering masses of mobs ofc.

[Hirogana]

Actually its called DPS = damage per second.And DoT is damage over time,not DoT= Total dmg/time,it's damage over some amount of time which the skill makes after its being casted.

[Dragonhand]

If you think, DPS is DOT considering 1 sec as the time... Dmg over time, dmg /(these is the "over" part) 1(these is the time part). Formulas are what you want to make of them. Same thing goes for chemistry's formulas... (imo -.-) but if you are used to call DPS then I use that...

In any case thats not the point, thinking about the new sword skill and possible buffs, is it possible to balance the things and give a chance to sword FS?

[Hirogana]

Well,if we get 100% crit dmg comp,then FS will have a chance.

[SinergyX]

Imho the huge problem on sword side is still storm crush. The damage it does just not suit the 6sec casting, has no stun, has no whatever.

If Crush was something like a 2-3 sec, things would get way more intresting, add the 4sec completer and you might even pull off a full sword side chain (crush,break, compl, BoJ - lets keep the stun hehe). This way, with high sword amp or atk, it can 'compete' with the magic cannon side.

In duels, the goal is just to hit target-HP asap. Crush is just too slow for its damage to reach it fast enough, in the time its cast you can do 3 cannons.

[Dragonhand]

Well,if we get 100% crit dmg comp,then FS will have a chance.

N1 lol cap of rate is about 40% i gess, but duno about crit dmg cap

[Ahura]

Crit Rate Cap is higher then 40% maybe 60-70%. People say this Crit Rate is different from class to class but personally I don’t believe this. I think Crit Rate Cap is same for all classes.

The Crit DMG% and Amp% Cap is 120% but I can’t prove it and the developwers never answered that question in the old Q/A. But once we get Episode 2, FS can test to see if Crit DMG Cap is 120 or not.

[FlorinROTM]

Im 123 FS with Str 400 Int 260 Dex 365 in Osmium 2 slots +4-+5 setwith HP 100 on armor and boots CriticalDmg on helm,topaz, redosmium ROF+7 EOG+6 AOG+7 EOV+0 BOR+0 and im 2x Trans and i get beated from every guy who is at least lvl100 thats sucks a lot.I just hope the new update would make some good things for FS.
He is the weakest character in this game.

[Dragonhand]

you get beated up cus probably ur not using the best skills :p

ok here it goes a little something I did that will help piking skills

FS Sword Skills, Base Attack considered 500, skills lvl 20

(Skill Name - Total Dmg/Dps - Time)
Power Slash - 631/371 - 1,7 sec
Slash Break - 708/354 - 2,0 sec
Rising Shot - 624/390 - 1,6 sec (Not bad...)
Soaring Shot - 798/362 - 2,2 sec
Wild Strike - 806/320 - 2,7 sec
Shield Charge - 635/488 - 1,3 sec (Good Dps)
Guilhutine - 933/345 - 2,7 sec
Earth Divide - 984/328 - 3,0 sec
Round Cut - 828/394 - 2,1 sec (Not Bad...)
Storm Crush - 1605/254 - 6,3 sec (Dps suck but Total Dmg pawns, good finisher)
Shield Ray - 1001/400 - 2,5 sec (Good Dps)
Shield Explosion - 1181/358 - 3,3 sec
Shield Break - 1594/398 - 4,0 sec (Good Dps)

Even considering the 500 attack hypothetical and niot counting in critic rates or wtv, we can see the potential of the skills and chose the best ones in order to make a combo.

Now lets do the same for Magic, also considering 500 Magic power.

Blade of Judgment - 1260/331 - 3,8 (Dps sucks but is the strongest magic skill, finisher in close combat)
Magic Cannon - 884/442 - 2,0 sec
Stone Cannon - 979/484 - 2,0 sec (1st)
Aqua Cannon - 948/474 - 2,0 sec (3th)
Wind Cannon - 918/459 - 2,0 sec
Fire Cannon - 956/478 - 2,0 sec (2nd)
Cristal Cannon - 927/463 - 2,0 sec (4th)
Lightning Cannon - 1042/453 - 2,3 sec (The strongest cannon, good as ranged finisher)

So we have the dps of the cannons, now just put them in order and make a combo with the less as possible counting on the delay they have. Hope it helped.

Once again I remember that both magic and attack are hipothetical numbers, just used to compare the skills and see the best ones to use.

[Hirogana]

Im 123 FS with Str 400 Int 260 Dex 365 in Osmium 2 slots +4-+5 setwith HP 100 on armor and boots CriticalDmg on helm,topaz, redosmium ROF+7 EOG+6 AOG+7 EOV+0 BOR+0 and im 2x Trans and i get beated from every guy who is at least lvl100 thats sucks a lot.I just hope the new update would make some good things for FS.
He is the weakest character in this game.
Off course you would get beaten by level ~100 cos you use RoF+7,FS needs RoL+2 and nothing else basically.And as for the Amulet,go for AoP+4 or above.
And DragonHand,most of the magic FS use 3-4 cannons and 1-2 lances.

[radley877]

use crit ring instead of ring of luck so if you crit you do UBERLOADS of damage lol then you might stood a chance :)) then titanium of deathblow with 8% crit dmg and extended so +15% crit dmg go full crit dmg so you win by fluke well at least it gives you a chance to win LOL

[mn1302]

use crit ring instead of ring of luck so if you crit you do UBERLOADS of damage lol then you might stood a chance :)) then titanium of deathblow with 8% crit dmg and extended so +15% crit dmg go full crit dmg so you win by fluke well at least it gives you a chance to win LOL

instead of crit ring, i d go for rof+10, coz that gives +10% crit dmg, and some more nice stuff,...
btw, roc gives 5% crit rate too, so that might be worth considering too, since it gives some attack increase too,

[Harju]

RoC is the most pointless thing ever.

[mn1302]

RoC is the most pointless thing ever.

dunno,... it gives 5% crit rate, and some other bonus stuff,...
though i dunno if its right, but rof and ros get +10% crit dmg at level 10
but does that mean roc gets +10% crit rate at level 10?
or does it stay at 5% rate?

[longshotbam]

I don´t see that much diffrent between 41-51% rate.
Maybe time to test it out then ^_^

Anyways i strongly believe the DPS will always be higher on FS Magic. Even in episode2 .

Gm and completer will be on ~4sec cast? that 4x cannons. ^/*

[Hirogana]

I don´t see that much diffrent between 41-51% rate.
Maybe time to test it out then ^_^

Anyways i strongly believe the DPS will always be higher on FS Magic. Even in episode2 .

Gm and completer will be on ~4sec cast? that 4x cannons. ^/*
Yea and 3x times more dmg if comp crits.

[I_Am_On_Ares]

so what u guys are saying is... to win a 1v1 (in war channel) FS needs to combo more than 11 times :S ill give up my fs now cause i suck at combo, my max was 27 and ive never come close to it evr since that day.

[longshotbam]

Yea and 3x times more dmg if comp crits.

uh? You don´t believe the completer skill will be nefred aaaaalot? ^^ :P


so what u guys are saying is... to win a 1v1 (in war channel) FS needs to combo more than 11 times :S ill give up my fs now cause i suck at combo, my max was 27 and ive never come close to it evr since that day.

I finish most my duels with 6 combo.(missed the "war channel part :P" Never really looked on war channel and atm i don´t really enjoy "war chan pvp" ^_> )

[Dragonhand]

so what u guys are saying is... to win a 1v1 (in war channel) FS needs to combo more than 11 times :S ill give up my fs now cause i suck at combo, my max was 27 and ive never come close to it evr since that day.


not actually, if after your opponent uses a potion you use 2 strong skills he will not have the chance to use other pot, thats why ppl use powerful and slow skills as finishers, cus if the total dmg is enough to kill, he wouldn't move until the cast is done. Imo...

about the cannons/lances.. duno never made a mage FS, that was just for testing :) but i can see the lances dps to help ppl choosing them

[SinergyX]

Storm Crush - 1605/254 - 6,3 sec (Dps suck
Shield Break - 1594/398 - 4,0 sec (Good Dps)

There was a topic about it a while ago, break does way more damage then crush. been confirmed by several, its rather easy to test in UD.

[Dragonhand]

Does not, the calculation shows that Crush total dmg is better, but at these time I'm sure you realised that I'm not using the second efect of the skill on the calculations, since there is no way to calculate it. These sort of skills power depends on how many time it hits so the overal dmg can be higher, at least thats what I assume from reading the skill description. But since most of sword skills from FS are kind of week in dps, i thing using these only for finisher is kind of bad since you have another strong skill.

[smieciu]

Emmm, something from me... I dont understand ur problem, or I'm uber-pro xD
In duel with opponent on same rank, even with better gear, I lost only 2/10 duels.... Way to glory is good combo, without storm crush... And I'm pure str FS, so I don't use magic... Imo u dont need to be magic FS if u wanna win duel =))

[Dragonhand]

true, but you do understand the concept of finisher don't you, its obvious that the only purpose of that skills is to use as finisher, high dmg but long cast time.

[KillForHell666]

Iam a 126 FS (Trancender/Trancender)
i have osmium 2 sloted (suit,boots,gloves) +6 and shineguard helm sloted +6 (crit dmg)
and i lose all PvP -.- lvl 106 blader kill me with out problems... FS are badest what i ever see .. afther PvPs all player say to me " ****ing NOOB FS hahAhahAh) * no coment*

[Harju]

Maybe you are PvPing with wrong people?

[kovy5]

Start skilling man! I'm lvl 61, A.master, and lvl 75 guys can't beat me...

[SinergyX]

Start skilling man! I'm lvl 61, A.master, and lvl 75 guys can't beat me...
There is quite a difference at that lvl, mostly due lack of G.master skill and some still at master, not to mention armor. At 100+ everyone getting to maximum performance.

[Dragonhand]

Iam a 126 FS (Trancender/Trancender)
i have osmium 2 sloted (suit,boots,gloves) +6 and shineguard helm sloted +6 (crit dmg)
and i lose all PvP -.- lvl 106 blader kill me with out problems... FS are badest what i ever see .. afther PvPs all player say to me " ****ing NOOB FS hahAhahAh) * no coment*

what is your combo?

[I_Am_On_Ares]

Start skilling man! I'm lvl 61, A.master, and lvl 75 guys can't beat me...

hey thats uncalled for, there are many lvl 75 that are g masters and could own u :O same with lvl 90 ppl that i beat but there are tons of others that i cant :P

[Harju]

hey thats uncalled for, there are many lvl 75 that are g masters and could own u :O same with lvl 90 ppl that i beat but there are tons of others that i cant :P


Dude, the guy was losing all PvPs.

[KillForHell666]

what is your combo?

Shild break, Shield Explosion, Earth Divine, Shield Ray ( lvl 9, 18, 20, 20 )

best FS skills but i lose all with a +6 equipment.... its not good -.-

Rings = 2 rings of luck +2
amulet = amulet of pain +3
cape = Epaullete of Fighter +6
earrings = 2 earrings of Protection ( 4 def each)
braclets = 2 braclets of Brute

[KillForHell666]

Dude, the guy was losing all PvPs.

hmm i think you lose too ^^ but you dont say it ;)

[hero7989]

I have tested it a better combo is Shield Break, Shield Explosion, Shield Ray, Guillotine (9,20,20,20)
Test this one then i could be better...

MfG

[SinergyX]

I often use my PvE combo in PvP, works sometimes :D

Break, cannon or explosion, BoJ, Crush, BoJ, and respeat from start. For me its rocksolid in PvE, PvP i just pick random powers.

[Hirogana]

Shild break, Shield Explosion, Earth Divine, Shield Ray ( lvl 9, 18, 20, 20 )

best FS skills but i lose all with a +6 equipment.... its not good -.-

Rings = 2 rings of luck +2
amulet = amulet of pain +3
cape = Epaullete of Fighter +6
earrings = 2 earrings of Protection ( 4 def each)
braclets = 2 braclets of Brute
Well,I can tell you I'm 111 atm and yet I've almost never lost a PvP my level (not considering someone with uber items or wizard).No matter what I use,sword or magic skills,they do almost the same dmg atm.

[Harju]

Shild break, Shield Explosion, Earth Divine, Shield Ray ( lvl 9, 18, 20, 20 )

best FS skills but i lose all with a +6 equipment.... its not good -.-

Rings = 2 rings of luck +2
amulet = amulet of pain +3
cape = Epaullete of Fighter +6
earrings = 2 earrings of Protection ( 4 def each)
braclets = 2 braclets of Brute


1. Have you tried replacing Earth Divine with Round Cut?
2. Have to add though, fighting with no weapon might me the reason of losing.
3. Losing all PvP? None can be that ******, no?

[DumahS]

Dudes *** did u ever played FS or ur just making post count. I know Ahura is right in all his posts and what he says is true but yall just a bunch of clowns.

I am lvl 142 FS (STR build) trans/trans and I am doing fine in pvp with sword skills only.
I got the best def in my guild and can kill most of the ppl i fight with with a lucky crit somewhere during the battle.
I got 48% chance to crit with my current gear and that lucky G. Master crit comes real often for me.
If you can get 15-20% amp on your gear and + it up to 6 belive me ur a tough nut to crack.
PS: After u hit the 950 def cap in pvp things are a lot more easyer.

[Abutre_PT]

Dudes *** did u ever played FS or ur just making post count. I know Ahura is right in all his posts and what he says is true but yall just a bunch of clowns.

I am lvl 142 FS (STR build) trans/trans and I am doing fine in pvp with sword skills only.
I got the best def in my guild and can kill most of the ppl i fight with with a lucky crit somewhere during the battle.
I got 48% chance to crit with my current gear and that lucky G. Master crit comes real often for me.
If you can get 15-20% amp on your gear and + it up to 6 belive me ur a tough nut to crack.
PS: After u hit the 950 def cap in pvp things are a lot more easyer.

Dude there is really no reason to insult, unless you got "The Supreme FS Guide" there are a lot of things to consider when u build up your FS, u have STR, INT, DEX builds that can be pure or mixed, lots of different skill combinations to try, some will work better one day and in the other you may need to change, then you have hard choices, more def, amp, critical rate or dmg to put on your gear, so any doubts about FS are perfectly acceptable imo.
FS are not great by default, takes a lot of work, good gear and a blessing from the critical gods, when you reach that point and the the gods smile upon you, you win and even if you lose no one will look at you as a weak opponent. As for me I have a lvl 127 DEX based magic FS, I do not consider myself weak and I know there is much to discover, try and improve.

[SinergyX]

Dudes *** did u ever played FS or ur just making post count. I know Ahura is right in all his posts and what he says is true but yall just a bunch of clowns.
And you hump him every weekend?

[Jorb]

Which attack (combo) you are use in pvp

[DumahS]

And you hump him every weekend?

No , but I hump your mom insted.

[SinergyX]

No , but I hump your mom insted.
Oldest reply in the world, try harder.

[Dragonhand]

Shild break, Shield Explosion, Earth Divine, Shield Ray ( lvl 9, 18, 20, 20 )

best FS skills but i lose all with a +6 equipment.... its not good -.-

Rings = 2 rings of luck +2
amulet = amulet of pain +3
cape = Epaullete of Fighter +6
earrings = 2 earrings of Protection ( 4 def each)
braclets = 2 braclets of Brute

ok about the combo remove force divide or divine or wtv it is, why? u have better skills, the same goes for explosion, on 1 vs 1 its not a good thing to use.

Try to use shield charge, it does not mutch dmg but its fast use it as your first skill, so the dps is very good, round cut its also a good skill. imagine that by replacing these 2 skills you cant still make enough dmg or dont have time to refresh, add for exemple, rising shot, fast and good dps. Now i duno what would be the hp of your oponents at that time but if they are near killed u can use storm crush, its a 6 second skill but if that skill kills your oponent he wont be able to move, if storm doesnt give dmg enough to kill then try to repeat your skills already refreshed. =) test by yourself ok?

(Skill Name - Total Dmg/Dps - Time)
Power Slash - 631/371 - 1,7 sec
Slash Break - 708/354 - 2,0 sec
Rising Shot - 624/390 - 1,6 sec (Not bad...)
Soaring Shot - 798/362 - 2,2 sec
Wild Strike - 806/320 - 2,7 sec
Shield Charge - 635/488 - 1,3 sec (Good Dps)
Guilhutine - 933/345 - 2,7 sec
Earth Divide - 984/328 - 3,0 sec
Round Cut - 828/394 - 2,1 sec (Not Bad...)
Storm Crush - 1605/254 - 6,3 sec (Dps suck but Total Dmg pawns, good finisher)
Shield Ray - 1001/400 - 2,5 sec (Good Dps)
Shield Explosion - 1181/358 - 3,3 sec
Shield Break - 1594/398 - 4,0 sec (Good Dps)

pay attention to these, shield break may not be acurate since there is one thing i cant calculate but you can get an idea of the diference betwen the skills. gl

[DumahS]

Which attack (combo) you are use in pvp


Sheild Break (9) / Sheild Explosion (20) / Guillotine (20) / Sheild Ray (20)
This is the best combo for pvp i came up with so far from my testings

Why Guillotine and not Earth Divide?
The difference between the 2 is that Guillotine is 0.3 sec faster cast and ur goal is to be able to cast a 2nd G master in pvp and that helps a bit. The damage difference is not big and ur main Damage skill is your G master.

Storm Crush is a good skill for PvP aswell if u know how to use it. Basicaly if u used a 2nd G master and the enemy is not yet dead finish him with your Storm Crush (20) for a lot of dmg.
Never us Storm Crush during the normal combo because of the long cast time.

Open PvP aka CvC or War channel / Pk is different :

For Sword FS i found that if you use Sheild Break (9) / Storm Crush (20) / Sheild Break (9) if can be a killer as long as u crit with your first G Master.

If u crit with your first G master u will knock down the enemy and he wont be able to pot while you cast your SC, by the time hes on his feet u will land a 2nd G master and he should be dead. (depends on your dmg and build aswell)

[Harju]

Sheild Break (9) / Sheild Explosion (20) / Guillotine (20) / Sheild Ray (20)
This is the best combo for pvp i came up with so far from my testings

Why Guillotine and not Earth Divide?
The difference between the 2 is that Guillotine is 0.3 sec faster cast and ur goal is to be able to cast a 2nd G master in pvp and that helps a bit. The damage difference is not big and ur main Damage skill is your G master.

Storm Crush is a good skill for PvP aswell if u know how to use it. Basicaly if u used a 2nd G master and the enemy is not yet dead finish him with your Storm Crush (20) for a lot of dmg.
Never us Storm Crush during the normal combo because of the long cast time.

Open PvP aka CvC or War channel / Pk is different :

For Sword FS i found that if you use Sheild Break (9) / Storm Crush (20) / Sheild Break (9) if can be a killer as long as u crit with your first G Master.

If u crit with your first G master u will knock down the enemy and he wont be able to pot while you cast your SC, by the time hes on his feet u will land a 2nd G master and he should be dead. (depends on your dmg and build aswell)


Lol. You are on Jupiter! Ofc you can beat pretty much everyone. There isn't just an opponent for you. Have you tried PvP with a...let's say 30% amp. wizard? If you can beat pretty much everyone in about 1 year, then you should call us clowns, ok?

[DumahS]

Lol. You are on Jupiter! Ofc you can beat pretty much everyone. There isn't just an opponent for you. Have you tried PvP with a...let's say 30% amp. wizard? If you can beat pretty much everyone in about 1 year, then you should call us clowns, ok?

What do you want me to call ppl that talk about how good DoT skills can be for Fs and how impressive BoJ can be in pvp LOL

Ofc if ur lvl 120 not dual trans with crap gear taht u wont win anything ever on a 1 year old server. But get 30% amp aswell and u'll see things different . I know that mages and warriors are a bit overpowered in pvp if they have a lot of amp but u cant get best def in game in slotted mithril +6 full set u will have a base of over 1100-1200 def and if u got some good bracelets with amp and stuff like that u can preety much kill everyone still. Ask anyone who has a clue about this game whats the best pvp class with full +7 mitril amped.

[KillForHell666]

ok about the combo remove force divide or divine or wtv it is, why? u have better skills, the same goes for explosion, on 1 vs 1 its not a good thing to use.

Try to use shield charge, it does not mutch dmg but its fast use it as your first skill, so the dps is very good, round cut its also a good skill. imagine that by replacing these 2 skills you cant still make enough dmg or dont have time to refresh, add for exemple, rising shot, fast and good dps. Now i duno what would be the hp of your oponents at that time but if they are near killed u can use storm crush, its a 6 second skill but if that skill kills your oponent he wont be able to move, if storm doesnt give dmg enough to kill then try to repeat your skills already refreshed. =) test by yourself ok?

(Skill Name - Total Dmg/Dps - Time)
Power Slash - 631/371 - 1,7 sec
Slash Break - 708/354 - 2,0 sec
Rising Shot - 624/390 - 1,6 sec (Not bad...)
Soaring Shot - 798/362 - 2,2 sec
Wild Strike - 806/320 - 2,7 sec
Shield Charge - 635/488 - 1,3 sec (Good Dps)
Guilhutine - 933/345 - 2,7 sec
Earth Divide - 984/328 - 3,0 sec
Round Cut - 828/394 - 2,1 sec (Not Bad...)
Storm Crush - 1605/254 - 6,3 sec (Dps suck but Total Dmg pawns, good finisher)
Shield Ray - 1001/400 - 2,5 sec (Good Dps)
Shield Explosion - 1181/358 - 3,3 sec
Shield Break - 1594/398 - 4,0 sec (Good Dps)

pay attention to these, shield break may not be acurate since there is one thing i cant calculate but you can get an idea of the diference betwen the skills. gl

I had tried a lot of skills at the train dummies, shield break,shield explosion, round cut, shield ray = the cool time of the G master skill not enought...
if i have 11 combo or higher the cool time break my combo self :(

yesterday a lvl 109 wizard request me a pvp 50k honour... i lose -.- lvl 109 and can kill a lvl 126 ...

what i need? all items +7 or what?

[SinergyX]

What do you want me to call ppl that talk about how good DoT skills can be for Fs and how impressive BoJ can be in pvp LOL
.
I think you need to start reading better, before yelling empty air...



yesterday a lvl 109 wizard request me a pvp 50k honour... i lose -.- lvl 109 and can kill a lvl 126 ...

what i need? all items +7 or what?
You need training and skills :) What server are you on anyway?

[Freaky]

Well, lets post a reply once again xD

My shielder has gotten bit stronger, and Faster ;o

Have tried a new combo lately, consists out of 4, from where 2 skills twice.
must say it works better then, the regular combo for sword based shielders.

Spoken to other guild mates, which are shielder as well but don't like the combo ><


Pm me in-game either on the forum for the new combo,

Server : Mercury
IGN : FreakyGamer


Greetz,
Freaky

[Harju]

What do you want me to call ppl that talk about how good DoT skills can be for Fs and how impressive BoJ can be in pvp LOL

Ofc if ur lvl 120 not dual trans with crap gear taht u wont win anything ever on a 1 year old server. But get 30% amp aswell and u'll see things different . I know that mages and warriors are a bit overpowered in pvp if they have a lot of amp but u cant get best def in game in slotted mithril +6 full set u will have a base of over 1100-1200 def and if u got some good bracelets with amp and stuff like that u can preety much kill everyone still. Ask anyone who has a clue about this game whats the best pvp class with full +7 mitril amped.

Actually...i was lvl 120 trans/comp with crap gear, but i still won some PvPs...let's take for example 5 crits in a row...so your statement is wrong, if i'm accurate.
Getting 30% amp is hard to get, no?
And mithril+6? Really...dude...think first. We aren't in 2008 yet.

[Hirogana]

What do you want me to call ppl that talk about how good DoT skills can be for Fs and how impressive BoJ can be in pvp LOL

Ofc if ur lvl 120 not dual trans with crap gear taht u wont win anything ever on a 1 year old server. But get 30% amp aswell and u'll see things different . I know that mages and warriors are a bit overpowered in pvp if they have a lot of amp but u cant get best def in game in slotted mithril +6 full set u will have a base of over 1100-1200 def and if u got some good bracelets with amp and stuff like that u can preety much kill everyone still. Ask anyone who has a clue about this game whats the best pvp class with full +7 mitril amped.
Let me just tell you,a FS with really good gear can pretty easily kill a wizard (unless its a will wizard).

[angelwatch]

Give the wizard an equal equip and we are back where we started..
When 2 builds got an equal equip, they both should have the same chances to win. It shouldn't be so that we need kickass equipment to beat someone with regular gear :sleepysmiley03:

[SinergyX]

About the upcomming korean update

Lvl 110 level up quest is the highest and it allows you to combo in bm1.

That might change basicly everything you guys just said ;)

[Harju]

About the upcomming korean update


That might change basicly everything you guys just said ;)


FS will just get more owned. That's all.

[SinergyX]

FS will just get more owned. That's all.
Thats the part i was refering to. A FB or BL in BM1 with combo's.. they hit hard and fast (we all know the FB BM1 i asume).

[Harju]

Thats the part i was refering to. A FB or BL in BM1 with combo's.. they hit hard and fast (we all know the FB BM1 i asume).


Don't know though...maybe we get some new "before PvP" menu, where can you choose BM, Buffs off/on. Would be fair.

[zomago]

What is difference between Wizard and Magic FS?

1.Wizard use cannons who do good dmg..

Shielder can use too

2.Wizard do bigger dmg with his G Master

Think about BoJ with some magic amp

3.Fs have more defense and hp than a wizard...and a Magic FS can own a wizard whitout problems if his gear is based on magic amp and crit rate

And as a FS you have more chance to gear good items with magic amp..cause armour items with magic amp is very cheap..(i have for moment Osmium Armour Helm and Suit with Magic Amp 5% in slot;;;just 30 kk both...and aqua crystal magic amp in slot)

Think about if lighning cannon or BoJ crit at 30% Magic Amp....i think wizard Have no chance...Of course andwizards can have magic amp..but as i told we have bigger hp and defense

Trust me i have wizard lvl 130 and i quit with him..i start a FS and i am very prow about him..

[Dragonhand]

dont use lightning cannon and boj on pvp ^^

[zomago]

dont use lightning cannon and boj on pvp ^^

why ? :)

[Dragonhand]

read the full thread and you will know why

[SinergyX]

why ? :)
To reply in a more proper way then just wack him off to go read the topic, lightning has a lower DPS compared to the other cannons, BoJ is just too long and too low dmg. (a KB/KD would work better)

[Harju]

why ? :)


Terra lance, Fire lance, Stone cannon, Fire cannon and Aqua lance have highest DPS.

[zomago]

Terra lance, Fire lance, Stone cannon, Fire cannon and Aqua lance have highest DPS.


Roger That:shades: Thx..


Today i had a pvp with another force shielder

i am lvl 61 rank A Expert/A Expert--and gear Shadow titanium Sloted and a board i have 929 hp..with board and hp in slots..

Thats shielder has lvl 72 and same rank as me he gear shadow titanium too but i dont know what upgrade..anyway

I used Cannons and he used sword skills

at the end of pvp i had 700 hp from 929--i kill him from 7 combo

[mn1302]

Roger That:shades: Thx..


Today i had a pvp with another force shielder

i am lvl 61 rank A Expert/A Expert--and gear Shadow titanium Sloted and a board i have 929 hp..with board and hp in slots..

Thats shielder has lvl 72 and same rank as me he gear shadow titanium too but i dont know what upgrade..anyway

I used Cannons and he used sword skills

at the end of pvp i had 700 hp from 929--i kill him from 7 combo

lol, ofc,...
aexp magic, owns aexp sword tbh,...
boj + cannons
vs
???? crap moves??? (cant remember the name, (flash draw, shield charge, and something else is my sword combo, (lowest cast times for fast skilling)))
(and rest of em have low dps tbh

[Dragonhand]

no boj mn1302, no boj ;)

he didn't said sword skills were crap Oo

[Harju]

Roger That:shades: Thx..


Today i had a pvp with another force shielder

i am lvl 61 rank A Expert/A Expert--and gear Shadow titanium Sloted and a board i have 929 hp..with board and hp in slots..

Thats shielder has lvl 72 and same rank as me he gear shadow titanium too but i dont know what upgrade..anyway

I used Cannons and he used sword skills

at the end of pvp i had 700 hp from 929--i kill him from 7 combo


Wanna PVP? :D I'm using only sword skills.:shades:

[zomago]

Wanna PVP? :D I'm using only sword skills.:shades:

well you are more higher tahn me..:shades:

[Harju]

Just 100%.

[Hirogana]

Harju try bebop=p

[Harju]

Harju try bebop=p



I didn't sense any humor -_-.