View Full Version : Do we play FS for fun or serious?
nathrizarri
02-01-2008, 10:28
alright fs's damage is not good comparing against other classes.. but magic fs rulez.. but skill animations sucks.. sword's dps is longer then magic.. then sword is not ideal in pvp.. but it looks pretty cool! make your choice.. do you play game for fun? then be a sword fs.. do you play for being number 1? be a magic fs.. It's just a game.. Just watch the animations which sword got and be happy.. dps is not importans in pvm.. enjoy the game.. and be a sword.. dont take losing pvp's serious..
kinda useless post to me :/
Do we play FS for fun or serious?
Life is serious. I always play for fun ;]
I play for fun, it is my first & main character.
no matter if i lose in pvp's, don't like losing? then don't pvp lol
i made my shielder pve, although it's changing a bit more to pvp now
(osm helm with 18% crit dmg + 2 RoL 20%crit rate total)
^ to me that is balanced, i can hold my own quite easy most of the times
(LS = max 4 orcs orc mages for me though)
level 115, dex build shielder
SinergyX
02-01-2008, 19:23
Im sure i bet safe to say that 99% of the people that play FS took it because of the initial looks.
Summonable shield, heavy armor, wooo looking GM power.
Then by finaly reaching all these 'woo factors', you're too deep in already to delete it and start another class.
Im sure i bet safe to say that 99% of the people that play FS took it because of the initial looks.
Summonable shield, heavy armor, wooo looking GM power.
Then by finaly reaching all these 'woo factors', you're too deep in already to delete it and start another class.
sad but true XD
but i started to like it more and more after some time
I picked Force Shielder cause i am ******, dumb and ldiot.
nathrizarri
02-01-2008, 20:11
yeah like everybody, i pickep fs for its looking:D but i like my char.. the most exciting think about it in dungeons, helping anothers, being in frontside.. you are their shield.. you protect them.. fs is for that.. and also the most cool looking char in cabal.. skills armors shield.. with everything.. this caracter is for satisfying your estetical needs.. not for pvps.. so, building a pvp fs seems useless to me.. you dont need pretty high amound of attack because your defence is pretty high so you can survive a lot longer.. why do we try to build a magic fs? despite its bad looking skills? go on sword man, and love your char.. enjoy the game dont make pvps problem because the chars in pvp who defeat you, need you in dungeons xD i decided to be a sword fs.. i wanna play my fs with fun.. so magic SUX:D:D:D
SinergyX
02-01-2008, 23:46
once u know the mechanics of agro, you should know magic FS would be the only 'tanker' attemp a FS could be. Sword is just a leeching high def nice looking character :)
Imho Force Blader is the best looking character. Atm sword Force Shielder is just a leecher for me.
--------------------------------------------------Force Shielder: Hey, party?
Warrior, Blader, Wizard, Force Archer, Force Blader: Lol?
TheBarbarian
03-01-2008, 03:28
Imho Force Blader is the best looking character. Atm sword Force Shielder is just a leecher for me.
--------------------------------------------------Force Shielder: Hey, party?
Warrior, Blader, Wizard, Force Archer, Force Blader: Lol?
fs dont need a party... its a one man army..
nathrizarri
03-01-2008, 06:14
yes magic fs is the taker but i am not playing this game for taking everybody.. i am here for having fun and sword fs makes me more happy.. i will build up my char with full str.. but i maximazed my magic skills also.. i have been playing magic fs since beginning but it feels boring
SinergyX
03-01-2008, 10:41
fs dont need a party... its a one man army..
Untill F2B comes along :D
Untill F2B comes along :D
You just kill all my hope :|
Im actually kinda scared when I see a magic FS :p So *** bullshiit crap talk about FS beeing weak
Im actually kinda scared when I see a magic FS :p So *** bullshiit crap talk about FS beeing weak
no, no, no - Sword FS is weak..... not magic FS.....
but FS should to be sword class .... not magic :(
Low dps sword skill make them useless in pvp and in highter dungeons ;/
SinergyX
03-01-2008, 14:57
You just kill all my hope :|
Dont worry, you'll do fine around it :)
(im still sword).
Dont worry, you'll do fine around it :)
(im still sword).
Yeah! I'm not alone :D
:clap3::dancing2::clap3:
I believe that completer skills will change the situatnion about uber nerf sword FS.
nathrizarri
03-01-2008, 18:19
sword rulez my friends if you crit.. SHIELD BREAK YEAAAAHHHH
SinergyX
03-01-2008, 23:11
Shield break = big version of magic Cannon.
You do know a Magic FS can cast these like 5 times per 10 sec? :D
nathrizarri
04-01-2008, 20:59
of course i know:D but there is a small detail in being sword.. if you are a sword fs and you are trying to push your atack, you are caged in losersclub.. everybody know str is def for fs.. being sword fs requires very very high amount of defence.. of course your dps will be lower than magic skills.. but your exta high defence will get over from your low dps.. in pvp surviving is the key thing of winning.. magic fs kicks good in short time but also makes you kickable in short time too:D:D just because of your cutted defence.. fs is for defence my friends.. and original fs is sword.. sword means str.. str means defence.. defence means surviving.. surviving means winning;);););)
_Broadway_
04-01-2008, 21:12
well, to me str means,power.and defense is not power.
nathrizarri
04-01-2008, 21:56
there are milions kind of powers.. defence does not effect your attack DIRECTLY! but it has a really critical role in pvps... doesnt sword fs' suffer from low dps??? high defence will solve this problem and allows you survive alot longer, hitting much more times.. Force Shielder gains its power from DEFENCE and CRIT RATE! so it is useless to push our attack franticly instead of pushing defence.. Every battle style has its own advantage.. Ours is defence.. its simple..
Hirogana
04-01-2008, 21:59
there are milions kind of powers.. defence does not effect your attack DIRECTLY! but it has a really critical role in pvps... doesnt sword fs' suffer from low dps??? high defence will solve this problem and allows you survive alot longer, hitting much more times.. Force Shielder gains its power from DEFENCE and CRIT RATE! so it is useless to push our attack franticly instead of pushing defence.. Every battle style has its own advantage.. Ours is defence.. its simple..
i dont see averty with his def build getting a lot more hits... def in pvp is not a huge role,attack and magic>def.
Tokepiks
05-01-2008, 01:34
I don't understand why so many people 're saying fs sword sucks...
I'm FS Sword 110 and I win versus every classes of my lvl like 50/50 .(100%versus bladers...).
Sometimes i loose vs a lvl80g.master (any classes) and sometimes i win vs 120 transcender (any classes). I just depends of crit dmg inc or not.
We just have to crit on g.master.skill that's all.
With "normal" stuff, i have 45%crit rate,i did'nt spent billions for this.
I love my shielder.:clap3:
nathrizarri
05-01-2008, 07:43
i dont agree with you i think def's role in pvp is very important.. doesnt def cut enemy's main attack? and also high amped damage? everybody knows opening bm gives us extremely advantages.. imagine a wizard who hits you 10 20 15 .... sometimes 3:D:D:D high defence will do this.. and we will survive alot longer
Dude you got it wrong. Force Shielder already has high def compared to other classes. So Shielder has to pump his atk.
nathrizarri
05-01-2008, 11:33
i know fs has higher defence but imagine we also pumped our defence too!!! surviving like a boss gives the best advantage i think.. in knight online, battle priests were wearing hp items to survive longer and no equal couldt take'm out despite of not wearing atack items! i agree with you attack is very very important i dont say anything to it but if sword fs suffers from low dps, he/she should go for defence.. just try it my friends.. i believe it will work.. well some will say if we push our defence we will lose our attack.. i have words for them too:D:D as you know fs equips require much more str then magic.. this means your atack is more then your magic.. then use def and atack upgrade skills.. def sence offence sense and other 2 def and atack u.skills which we can use in gmrank.. allright see that? our attack got its bonus!!! and wear full critical hp def items.. make your crit rate at least %55-60.. then see what happens;)
Hirogana
05-01-2008, 14:32
nathrizarri,i had that idea,but after i got off my armour in pvp,i've seen that dmg difference was about 50 per hit and I lost over 400 defense.So def is not such a big deal.
nathrizarri
05-01-2008, 18:58
:S:S:S i am shocked! howw can it be? does defence cut enemys main attack or amped and skill bonused damage?
nathrizarri
05-01-2008, 19:00
but in bm, +50 defence makes a huge difference! does it about defence rate??
janaweed
05-01-2008, 20:15
I played for fun but all suckx =) I allways levelin aloune ;)
Anquietas
05-01-2008, 20:42
Well I have a rubbishy little level 32 Force Shielder and it's not all that great yet... So "fun" for me. Lol..
To all those whining about FS having bad Sword skills, pay attention:
Force Shielder is one of TWO Magic + Sword Hybrids.
Yes, that's right, TWO!
Force Blader is the other.
Whilst Force Blader is focused mainly in sword, it's in my honest opinion that Force Shielder is well placed with the Magic. If you want a character that wears an armourset and does heavy Sword damage, play a Warrior. That's what it's there for. :)
Force Bladers, on the other hand, are much more fragile and focus on Sword skills, not Magic; as some people might think.
To be perfectly honest, Force Shielders are the only ones that complain about their Skill area. Read the fineprint; nowhere does it say Force Shielders will be most powerful in Sword.
In the official text describing Force Shielders, it has a few bits of text which read as follows:
"Force Shielders specialize in short-range force control, which means that
they are incapable of doing long-range attacks. However, they make up for this
weakness by developing supporting magic spells which increase their attack strength by manipulating outer forces near their bodies. It's these methods which match those of the Wizard's strongest asset.
This revolutionary invention has become a turning point in the Nevarethian battle style. Force Shielders must invest a lot of their effort in physical strength in order to be equipped with Armor Suit, the strongest yet heaviest armor, as well as an understanding of force in order to skillfully control force. They also need to consider dexterity for decent hit rate since they can only use one-handed swords."
Key points are highlighted. :)
If anyone wishes to flame me for trying to knock some sense into you, do it via PM please. :)
Think carefully before picking your class and don't complain if it doesn't turn out like you hoped. :)
Dude, play the damn class!
Anquietas
05-01-2008, 21:34
Dude, play the damn class!
I need not. Everything I need to BE told has BEEN told through the description. Just because the majority of people "assume" before thinking, doesn't make me wrong. :)
SinergyX
06-01-2008, 23:12
Well I have a rubbishy little level 32 Force Shielder and it's not all that great yet... So "fun" for me. Lol..
To all those whining about FS having bad Sword skills, pay attention:
Force Shielder is one of TWO Magic + Sword Hybrids.
Yes, that's right, TWO!
Force Blader is the other.
Whilst Force Blader is focused mainly in sword, it's in my honest opinion that Force Shielder is well placed with the Magic. If you want a character that wears an armourset and does heavy Sword damage, play a Warrior. That's what it's there for. :)
Force Bladers, on the other hand, are much more fragile and focus on Sword skills, not Magic; as some people might think.
To be perfectly honest, Force Shielders are the only ones that complain about their Skill area. Read the fineprint; nowhere does it say Force Shielders will be most powerful in Sword.
In the official text describing Force Shielders, it has a few bits of text which read as follows:
"Force Shielders specialize in short-range force control, which means that
they are incapable of doing long-range attacks. However, they make up for this
weakness by developing supporting magic spells which increase their attack strength by manipulating outer forces near their bodies. It's these methods which match those of the Wizard's strongest asset.
This revolutionary invention has become a turning point in the Nevarethian battle style. Force Shielders must invest a lot of their effort in physical strength in order to be equipped with Armor Suit, the strongest yet heaviest armor, as well as an understanding of force in order to skillfully control force. They also need to consider dexterity for decent hit rate since they can only use one-handed swords."
Key points are highlighted. :)
If anyone wishes to flame me for trying to knock some sense into you, do it via PM please. :)
Think carefully before picking your class and don't complain if it doesn't turn out like you hoped. :)
Lets see those 'keypoints':
specialize in short-range force control
Next to archers, i believe cannons have pretty much the longest range. Short-range?
supporting magic spells
While spamming cannons the rest of your life? Support? Oh you mean the crit.rate/dmg buff? Or maybe that puny +def buff? Aaah 2 out of 60?
match those of the Wizard's strongest asset
We can blink too? o.0 Oh wait, Wizard asset = damage, shielder has non.
skillfully control force
By using cannons that every single class can do.. damn, those require skills dude!
dexterity
Errr so? Who doesnt?
You might have forgotten:
which increase their attack strength
a lot of their effort in physical strength
revolutionary invention has become a turning point in the Nevarethian battle style (exactly 4 skills uses the shield.. revolution baby!!)
No, Force Blader uses magic to enhance him/herself, or to debuff the crap out of a mob. Shielders... dont do any of that.
Would someone expact spamming cannons the rest of your life while seeing a SWORD and a SHIELD? Sorry, not me.
I play FS cause of this:
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1205/palihd5.jpg
Just replace "Paladin" with "Force Shielder".
(And yeah, I know that this has been posted somewhere, but i cba to look for it)
lol, i got 6 chars,...
and iv been thinking, fs got good critrate,... and dmg from buffs,...
but fb got same critrate/dmg (approx)
they get 10% rate n dmg from buff, (or 10% and 11%)
than their skills give another 5% rate and 20% dmg
that means 15% rate and 30% dmg
is that worth switching to fb?
(15% rate and 30% dmg) vs (18% rate and 36% dmg)
but fb having good debuffs, and that buff giving critrate and dmg, gives also +lots of attack,....
(too bad magic fb isnt possible, coz the skills giving 5%rate and 20%dmg are all sword skills,... (exept when ur going fb and constantly in bm))
SinergyX
07-01-2008, 14:02
BM1 combo FB > anything :D
I play FS cause of this:
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1205/palihd5.jpg
Just replace "Paladin" with "Force Shielder".
(And yeah, I know that this has been posted somewhere, but i cba to look for it)
Well it is kinda true. I also hold on button, mostly Shield Break and CTRL+Tab for chatting in MSN. To be honest i always play in window mode, cause going out from full screen just takes too much time. :D
Force Shielder needs a taunt skill for being useful!!!
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