View Full Version : crit rate.. the way to the victory..
nathrizarri
06-01-2008, 16:57
only advantage has force shielder about attack, is crit rate.. how to have a pretty stong crit rate? how many percent of damage we gain from a crit shot.. and a simple detail i realized for crit rate.. you can crit more often to the monsters which are lower level than you.. i mean i cant make nice crits against excavator alfa as i make to phantom crew.. does it about enemys def rate or our attack rate? or something else:D
Kutulame
10-01-2008, 22:14
only advantage? what about FS has the best defence in the game. I don't know what the other classes have but I am prety sure they DON'T have BOJ.
yes critical is the great "bonus" FS has. we are the only class thats worths investing in critical items. Iheard some reached 50+% in rate and 100+% dmg.
anyway in critical dmg bonus we get 20%(base)+36%(lvl20 buff)+ item bonuses. you can get 10% from amulet of pain, and 5-18% (or more vial slot extender and a shitload or luck) from any of crustal, blade and/or helmet.
about the rate and the lvl you deal with i can't help about this one. not aware of this.
defence rate. well thins about it as "how often will my enemies/foes miss on me, and attack rate as a hit rating for your attacks against enemies/foes of yours. those rates don't "exist" in combos. when in combo you never miss (except if you count flee rate which is the dodge rate).
in conclusion as an FS go for a well balanced critical-dmg/critical rate and you ll be fine
nathrizarri
12-01-2008, 21:07
hmm yes also we have defence advantage too but people say it doesnt make a huge difference in pvp.. thx for help dude
Ragnak1q337
12-01-2008, 21:50
Go for full crt rate/dmg, about that "super def" you wont even fell that you got more def then your enemy cuz your dmg sux so hard(btw what type of FS you are ? magic or sword one ? i guess you are sword thats why i wrote that FS dmg sux).
Kutulame do you even play FS ? well if you are magic one then yes boj is pretty good but for sword FS is pain in the ***(you need to use it at pve to survive but you lose dmg pretty much).
Anyway if you got low lvl with your FS just start something else cuz FS got really dark future(maybe it will be good but at the moment its really risky).
nathrizarri
13-01-2008, 14:06
too late 71 lvl:D
Kutulame
16-01-2008, 17:34
Go for full crt rate/dmg, about that "super def" you wont even fell that you got more def then your enemy cuz your dmg sux so hard(btw what type of FS you are ? magic or sword one ? i guess you are sword thats why i wrote that FS dmg sux).
Kutulame do you even play FS ? well if you are magic one then yes boj is pretty good but for sword FS is pain in the ***(you need to use it at pve to survive but you lose dmg pretty much).
Anyway if you got low lvl with your FS just start something else cuz FS got really dark future(maybe it will be good but at the moment its really risky).
I do have and play with my FS I don't know or which the other characters play in game but yes you DO have to use BOJ in PVE. I can't see anything else to use in PVE. I am skilling up atm at 107 lvl and i thing that whatever you do for PVE its better to use BOJ then round cut or anything else.
Do you play FS or just posting? cause if you do then quit or rerole. You said FS sucks.... why play a non-good character as you said?
1 archer in PT and you won't need BoJ. :p
I tested yesterday i many crits i do when i train.
I did in 10 hits 7 crits and 11 was 8 crits in combo's.
Sounds weird but when i don't use my combo i crit less...
i think fs dont need to "survive" he have enough defense to not have problems ..depind of that breacking point..i dont know if is a lie but i heared one ppl say with 950 def fog in b2f hit 10-20 dmg(i think is min dmg)..and a friend of mine have 948 def and fog hit him 100-300 dmg in b2f..so breaking point is at 950..but this is a bad part of fs have lower attack..and in pvp only 1000+ defense can save your a.s.s(except magic fs)
I got a full OSM set +5 with 1 part +6.
I got about 650 def when i have my rings on with crit and amulet of pain.
How would sum1 get about 1000 def... even 950 is hard.
Forgot the name but the lvl 99 set +7 will that make a total of 950+ def??
That would be insane cause who has it... and if you have it, then it costed you billions.. and that would mean that ONLY rich people will be able to be a good Force shielder and a avarage shielder is always weak, bad, ect...
thats how i c it..
I would like to know who has 950+ def as shielder and what his equip is for this def.
Xeneonic
18-01-2008, 09:53
only advantage has force shielder about attack, is crit rate.. how to have a pretty stong crit rate?
Wanted to let you know that Force Archer gets +1% Critical Rate for each battlestyle he or she gains, Bladers also have a huge modifier on Critical Rate and Critical Damage on most of their skills, effectively cancelling out "Advantage" of the FS. Besides that, the Damage over Time that Force Bladers have stack and ignore defense. (Same goes for poison arrow from the Force Archer, except that it doesn't stack.)
longshotbam
18-01-2008, 11:47
I have 800def with AoB/RoL+2s Osm x3 , gloves titanium, i believe it was , so 950def+ is not impossible for a dex build/sg. And really not if he choose Mithril set :P
Well i am Lv. 71 now, and i have 38% critical rate ( + the basic rate) and 64% criticcal DMG (+ the bacis DMG)
I got a full OSM set +5 with 1 part +6.
I got about 650 def when i have my rings on with crit and amulet of pain.
How would sum1 get about 1000 def... even 950 is hard.
Forgot the name but the lvl 99 set +7 will that make a total of 950+ def??
That would be insane cause who has it... and if you have it, then it costed you billions.. and that would mean that ONLY rich people will be able to be a good Force shielder and a avarage shielder is always weak, bad, ect...
thats how i c it..
I would like to know who has 950+ def as shielder and what his equip is for this def.
I got ~940 Def with SG +6 on lvl 120. I'm sure i can get that nasty 10 def from somewhere.
PS. Mithril Armourpart +4 gives 140 def.
break point i noticed too,... if i got in tita +5 set in lid, the toads hit me 50 each or so,...
but in osm +0, they all hit me 8 dmg, (aka the minimum possible)
while diffrence between tita+5 (65def) and osm twoslot+0 (70def) is only 4*5 defense,....
(i think thats the def diffence, dunno exact numbers)
(so 20 def more, means i can lure all toads in that lake with the ruinz, and hit all at once, for the stun)
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