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XErTuX
17-05-2008, 09:34
dont forget the base %5 rate

longshotbam
18-05-2008, 21:23
Only lvl/rank up abit more magic,hp,def blalb

Magic: 873
Def: 908

Gimme luck to +6 my mithril >.<

uniqernx6
19-05-2008, 23:27
uniq3RN lv150
Build: Int
Serv: Mars
Magic: 803
Crit rate: 44%
Crit dmg: 116%
Amp: 42%
Defense: 835

uniqernx6
14-06-2008, 16:59
New stuff ;D

uniq3RN lv 151

bulid int ;]

magic 830
amp 44
crit dmg 126
rate 44
def 820 ( use vamp+3)

stuff

gloves osm armour +6+7magic amp
boots osm armour +6+7 magic amp
amor osm armour+6+7 magic amp +50 hp
helm osm armour +6 36 crit dmg
orb mithril +4+10 crit dmg
katana mithril +4 7magic amp
2x bos+4
2x vamp earring +3
amulet of vamp+4/amulet of battler+4 ;/
1x rol+2
1x critical ring/ring hp steal 5%
eos+7

mn1302
15-06-2008, 06:55
Only lvl/rank up abit more magic,hp,def blalb

Magic: 873
Def: 908

Gimme luck to +6 my mithril >.<

nice,....

is all ur mithril +5 ???

longshotbam
15-06-2008, 08:55
na, now its +3/+4 :o !^_^!

mn1302
15-06-2008, 09:00
does mithril if u do it +, give 6 def extra, or 12 ???

coz if u can get +7 mithril full set slotted,...
u d have mfs getting 1100 def maybe

deadleader
20-06-2008, 09:27
>Update<
DopeHolder lvl 145
Int build
802 magic
50%rate
115% crit dmg
42%amp
846def

Crumpets
20-06-2008, 09:47
Heh time for my stats ;p

Lvl 121
Magic: 751
Dmg: 110%
Rate: 44%
Amp: 45% [ Can't wear my Bos+3's or 4's yet due to low lvl ]
Def: 801

Not too bad for my nuby 121 I hope T_T

XErTuX
20-06-2008, 16:07
i`m now sword fs but i would like to write my old values

840 magic
%52 amp
%111 dmg

XErTuX
20-06-2008, 18:10
%44rate .

uniqernx6
06-07-2008, 12:41
so time for up :P

uniq3RN 152 lv
int bulid

Magic 870
crit dmg 126
rate 44
amp 44
def 825

oufefe
13-07-2008, 01:41
Mrfefe lv141
Build: Int
Serv: Mercury
Magic: 782
Crit rate: 55%
Crit dmg: 170%
Amp: 37%
Defense: 817

Crumpets
13-07-2008, 07:20
Time for me.


Name: (GA)FlyInTheSky
Level: 141
Build: Int
Magic: 835
Rate: 44%
Dmg: 105%
Amp: 50%
Def: 825

Freaky
13-07-2008, 09:35
Heres mine


Name: FreakyGamer
Level: 144
Build: Int
Magic: 845
Rate: 54%
Dmg: 100%
Amp: 51%
Def: 837

Crumpets
13-07-2008, 16:42
Heres mine


Name: FreakyGamer
Level: 144
Build: Int
Magic: 845
Rate: 54%
Dmg: 100%
Amp: 52%
Def: 837


What kind of gear you got to get those kinds of stats ? I got very high end gear, at my lvl it can not get any better .. and you seem to surpass everything except crit dmg :O ?

penryujin
13-07-2008, 17:30
What kind of gear you got to get those kinds of stats ? I got very high end gear, at my lvl it can not get any better .. and you seem to surpass everything except crit dmg :O ?

isnt it obvious? :o mithril weapons amp slot (i guess +6), 2x bos+4, eos+8 (duration? ;)), 7% amp gloves, boots, suit, 30%dmg helm and any aop between +4 and +5. Or at least that fits the stats ^^ more like an educated guess on some parts hehe

Edit: Could also be eos+7 and one bos+2 slot =p didnt think of that before

Crumpets
13-07-2008, 17:37
isnt it obvious? :o mithril weapons amp slot (i guess +6), 2x bos+4, eos+8 (duration? ;)), 7% amp gloves, boots, suit, 30%dmg helm and any aop between +4 and +5. Or at least that fits the stats ^^ more like an educated guess on some parts hehe

Edit: Could also be eos+7 and one bos+2 slot =p didnt think of that before

Ahh, yeah makes sense. Guess I need a few more upgrades then ;p

Freaky
13-07-2008, 20:38
Mithril orb/katana magic amp both +6
Osm gloves +7 magic amp in slot
Osm suit +6 magic amp + hp in slot
Osm boots +6 magic amp in slot
Osm armourhelm +6 30dmg

Pain amulet +4
BoS+4 x2
RoL+2 x2
EoS+7 durated ( for now ^^ )


I do lowered my crit dmg.
Cause from reliable dmg tests, which you all can do for yourself so I don't need to do the maths again;

I did less dmg and was more crit reliable with 2 36dmg weapons ( St blade +6 / Aqua +7 )

Now more static dmg, with even higher crits then before ( thats cause my magic rose with ~120 )

I DO still look after a eos +7 ND and a nice armourhelm with 36 dmg for a fair price, they'll sure drop in price sooner or later ;p.

penryujin
13-07-2008, 21:47
thats only 51% amp then =o 7x5+2*6+4=51 or am i missing something?


Ahh, yeah makes sense. Guess I need a few more upgrades then ;p

hehe =) looks like my guess wasnt so bad afterall ;)

Crumpets
13-07-2008, 21:47
Mithril orb/katana magic amp both +6 - Same but both +5
Osm gloves +7 magic amp in slot - Same but +6
Osm suit +6 magic amp + hp in slot - 7% craft 100 hp +6
Osm boots +6 magic amp in slot - Same but +7
Osm armourhelm +6 30dmg - Same

Pain amulet +4 - AoB+7 -.-
BoS+4 x2 - +3's, but I'll buy +4's now I guess
RoL+2 x2 - Same
EoS+7 durated ( for now ^^ ) - +8 D -.-




Ahh, I see the differences ;p

Freaky
13-07-2008, 22:08
thats only 51% amp then =o 7x5+2*6+4=51 or am i missing something?

oops, typo xD

OT1
14-07-2008, 00:38
So then which is better full amp MFS or have a osmi and lapis crys 36dmg both, i mean yes lower magic, but u hit like 4-6 cannons so your crits will hurt way more, *awaits answer from noob PenPen :friends:


P.S. Oh and Freaky, go delete your FS totally man, make a shemale WA, that would suit u better ^^, hihihihihi, noob

Crumpets
14-07-2008, 00:50
So then which is better full amp MFS or have a osmi and lapis crys 36dmg both, i mean yes lower magic, but u hit like 4-6 cannons so your crits will hurt way more, *awaits answer from noob PenPen :friends:


P.S. Oh and Freaky, go delete your FS totally man, make a shemale WA, that would suit u better ^^, hihihihihi, noob

I could do a test, as in .. I have full amp .. but I could lend a friends +7 ST / Aqua 36% dmg Blade / Crystal with a +6 36% dmg helm.


Would give me some crazy dmg ... if you need soem kind of statistics I could be of help ;p

Freaky
14-07-2008, 08:06
So then which is better full amp MFS or have a osmi and lapis crys 36dmg both, i mean yes lower magic, but u hit like 4-6 cannons so your crits will hurt way more, *awaits answer from noob PenPen :friends:


P.S. Oh and Freaky, go delete your FS totally man, make a shemale WA, that would suit u better ^^, hihihihihi, noob


Apart, you flame me .. ( and flame you back )

Few points;

1st - Go get me the weapons u stated above.
2nd - What your doing on the shielders section anyways.
3rd - I've beaten you most of the times with sword fs, wonder now with magic.
4th - You failed ^^ ( as always )

P.S. Oh and Saphi, regarding to another topic you said I was acting plain ******, how were you acting when you joined Unemployed ?

P.S.S. What goes around comes around, friend ^^

Greetz,

Noah
14-07-2008, 08:50
P.S. Oh and Saphi, regarding to another topic you said I was acting plain ******, how were you acting when you joined Unemployed ?


And what`s that supposed to mean if i may ask?

You imply he was PLAIN ****** when he joined Unemployed?

Start measure u`r words you mediocre noob,is not Unemployed`s fault u`r loosing all the good players from u`r guild.

Sorry for this offtopic guyz.

Now ontopic,Pendragon is the best MFS in Cabal EU,period.^^

AZEL55
14-07-2008, 09:09
IGN : EatYouAlive - Mars
lvl : 144
HP : 2938
Def : 880
Magic : 805
Amp : 37
Crit Dmg: 126 ( without base dmg)
Rate : 44

Less amp , more dmg ! :D

dravy
14-07-2008, 11:37
IGN DraVy -> Mars
LvL 144
Int: 763 for now still need a Mithril Katana :(
Amp: 34%
Rate: 49 %
Dmg: 120 %
HP: 2893
Def: 833

Crumpets
14-07-2008, 12:41
So then which is better full amp MFS or have a osmi and lapis crys 36dmg both, i mean yes lower magic, but u hit like 4-6 cannons so your crits will hurt way more, *awaits answer from noob PenPen :friends:




Done the test's with +7 36% dmg weps and 36% dmg helm ;p. As expected tbh, but I would never go crit with these items, no crit = no dmg. Either I would need max crit stuff to raise the possibility even further and become a full luck build .. or stay the way I am and hope for 1-2 crits.

In order:

1: Current items,
2: Screenshot with AMP damages from Stone Canon / Terra Lance With Crit and without.
3: Screenshot with CRIT DMG damages from Stone Canon / Terra Lance With Crit and without.

Damages Screenshot 2 are: [ SC /No Crit-346 /Crit-673 ] [ TL /No Crit-317 /Crit-611 ]
Damages Screenshot 3 are: [ SC /No Crit-270 /Crit-729 ] [ TL /No Crit-241 /Crit-647 ]

http://imagesshared.com/thumb-320.jpg (http://imagesshared.com/showpic-320/untitled.png) http://imagesshared.com/thumb-319.jpg (http://imagesshared.com/showpic-319/amp_stone_terra.png) http://imagesshared.com/thumb-321.jpg (http://imagesshared.com/showpic-321/dmg_stone_terra.png)


/End of experiment T_T

OT1
14-07-2008, 12:54
Apart, you flame me .. ( and flame you back )

Few points;

1st - Go get me the weapons u stated above.
2nd - What your doing on the shielders section anyways.
3rd - I've beaten you most of the times with sword fs, wonder now with magic.
4th - You failed ^^ ( as always )

P.S. Oh and Saphi, regarding to another topic you said I was acting plain ******, how were you acting when you joined Unemployed ?

P.S.S. What goes around comes around, friend ^^

Greetz,

Omg this is sooo lol. Dude i was just teasing you man, i have nothin against u and whenever i posted something about u it was always on a joke note, dont know why u got the impression that i wanted to flame u, bcus u were always one of my fav guild m8s in exo. Dude if u think i wanna flame u, ur totally wrong, maybe u misunderstood my tease-jokes, but i thought u knew me better than that freaky -.-. Anw no need to flame my current guild, which u know nothing about btw, but regardless of this, i repeat i was kidding with u, anw ill talk to u ingame about this, when i finally fix my noob pc =(, so see u ingame, nub (joke again -.-).


Ontopic, thanks for you test Crumpets, i guess a good mix of amp and crit dmg is good, but seeing from ur test, seems amp weaps and a dmg helm is the best match.

hero7989
14-07-2008, 12:54
IGN : VenomForce - Mercury
lvl : 146
Def : 817
Magic : 760
Amp : 34
Crit Dmg: 115 ( without base )
Rate : 44

Freaky
14-07-2008, 12:59
Omg this is sooo lol. Dude i was just teasing you man, i have nothin against u and whenever i posted something about u it was always on a joke note, dont know why u got the impression that i wanted to flame u, bcus u were always one of my fav guild m8s in exo. Dude if u think i wanna flame u, ur totally wrong, maybe u misunderstood my tease-jokes, but i thought u knew me better than that freaky -.-. Anw no need to flame my current guild, which u know nothing about btw, but regardless of this, i repeat i was kidding with u, anw ill talk to u ingame about this, when i finally fix my noob pc =(, so see u ingame, nub (joke again -.-).

Last offtopic for this matter,

You still dont know that I mess with your brain aswell on the forum and in-game xD ?
And I do not have anything against Unemp, except there capella =p

OT1
14-07-2008, 13:18
Last offtopic for this matter,

You still dont know that I mess with your brain aswell on the forum and in-game xD ?
And I do not have anything against Unemp, except there capella =p

-.-, i cant w8 to give you one of these :black_eye: :yahoo::friends:

penryujin
14-07-2008, 13:38
So then which is better full amp MFS or have a osmi and lapis crys 36dmg both, i mean yes lower magic, but u hit like 4-6 cannons so your crits will hurt way more, *awaits answer from noob PenPen :friends:

hehe good question :p and there is no longer a clear answer for it and on top of that it strikes at the very core of mFS design these days...let me elaborate.
Back in Episode1 the mithril amp build was a clear winner. Well yes crit-dmg was only half of what it is now obviously but i also refer to the missing skills. High magic and amp was needed to pierce the defense of a boss. And people like Gatz, me and ofc several others went for that build. Now in episode 2 two big factors changed...the skill mortal bane (+300magic) which you'll essentially use against (almost) every boss so the low magic problem against bosses is less of a factor then before and add the importance that Battle modes/aura currently play in the game...not only have they become more powerful stat wise due to the new rank ups, the ability to combo in bm1/aura and last but not least the wizard sp buff. All those stat boosts favor a crit-dmg build over an amp build. Even without the stat boost it does depend a lot on monster defense which build deals the most expected damage. Obviously low def favours a crit-dmg build and high def an amp build. Lets take a look at Orca in his first form (as i still have the excel data on my desktop from my last calculation in that matter ^^) the estimated defense was ~1372 (it does vary ofc). I'll sum it up and only present 3 different builds (yes i also made the full dream gear tests but thats not needed right now) for that matter and mind you this result is only valid with my current stats and lv160 rankup:

A1: Osmium Katana of Deathblow +7 (40%dmg +5magic) / Mithril Orb +6 (7% Magic Amp)
A2: Mithril Blade of Destruction +6 (+16magic 7% magic amp) / Mithril Orb +6 (7% Magic Amp)
A3: Osmium Katana of Deathblow +7 (40%dmg +5magic) / Lapis Orb of Deathblow (40%dmg +5magic)

Now the situations (dps calculation was done using a lv20 tera lance):

Normal atk: A2 > A1 > A3
bm2+aura+bane: A3 > A1 > A2
bm1+aura+bane: A1 > A2 > A3
bm2+aura: A2 > A1 > A3
bm2 (or bm1): A2 > A1 > A3

Each build has its ups and downs here...what you cant see (since i avoided using numbers) is that the gap between the crit build and amp build in the full power situation is quite huge and that in general A1 performs quite well overall and except for the normal atk situtation its only a marginal amount missing and in the bane situations its quite close to the full dmg build. Mind you this in only the final boss in FT all monsters before that have lower defense ofc and so even in the non-bm/bane situations A1 outperforms A2. Chakris in particular is best done with the crit-dmg or semi-crit-dmg build.

So where does that leave us? Well lets start with a comment on the crit-dmg builds...those require you to have quite high (mithril like) magic to be effective. So when building up a mFS it should be recommended to start with the mithril build and as you increase stat wise it might be a good idea to add some deathblow weapons in the mix. As gatz stated his dream gear in a thread a while ago 2x 7% rate 40%dmg osmium/lapis weapons make one nice set :girl_wink:

A look at korea: Lots of the top mFS there actually keep both a lapis and a mithril orb/crystal and use them depending on what is favorable in the right situations

A look in the future: Well FT b2f will be here "soon" and depending on mob def this could all change again and will be an interesting thing to adept to :) Also Mithril Orbs +7 and EOS+8...at +7 the magic boost is so high that it becomes even easier to drop the sword for a more crit-dmg oriented one. For now i'm keeping items for all kinds of builds.

A critical look at the FS db build: The results so far are mostly based on math but there is one minor problem you'll notice when playing a more DB oriented build...hp steal! :black_eye: while your crits will remaing giving you the maximum amount of hp you can get from vampiric items your non-crits will be lower and this might result in needing a higher % in hp steal items to retain the same amount of hp recovery as you had with the mithril amp build.

Ughhh just noticed how long this has become xP sorry about that lol I'll leave the pvp chapter open for another day or gatz could do it =D and as a general rule i'd try to stay away from aqua or shadowtitanium weapons on a mfs for now as you'll probably lack the magic to make them effective. So long :)

dravy
20-07-2008, 11:43
k finally got a katana stats now :

48 % AMP
49 % Rate
100 % DMG
865 Magic ( both +6)
845Def ( all +6 )

2996HP

Santiago1
30-07-2008, 06:42
update

ign: Tehnix - Jupiter

lvl161
Build:int
magic:880
amp:44%
crit rate:51%
crit dmg:135%
def:869

Dr_SeRiOuS
30-07-2008, 07:37
whats the base of rate and crit?
still the same before ep 2?

bloemkool
30-07-2008, 09:34
whats the base of rate and crit?
still the same before ep 2?

go test it, its not that difficult :p

Dr_SeRiOuS
30-07-2008, 10:03
go test it, its not that difficult :p

ga nogal moeilijk als ge op u werk zit he...

x901
30-07-2008, 10:51
rate 5% , dmg 20% correct me if im wrong

jackosa67
30-07-2008, 11:07
Omg to see gatzuaa with only 81-100% critdmg ;) UPDATE YOU INFO SLOW POKE !!

mios2k7
08-08-2008, 11:52
Guess it time for me:o my MFS only lvl 95 tho

build: INT

44% rate
87%crit dmg(without base)
24%amp(class 2 honor <.<)
588magic
707 defence

Crumpets
10-08-2008, 13:13
Updated stats, all tho I'm not happy with my helm atm nor my hands. Both are not osmium so I really need to +7 them as I am lacking so much defense.

44% - Rate
114% - Crit Damage
58% - Amp
829 - Magic
795 - Defense <-- See it's low =/

AZEL55
12-08-2008, 15:10
IGN : EatYouAlive - Mars
lvl : 144
HP : 2938
Def : 880
Magic : 805
Amp : 37
Crit Dmg: 126 ( without base dmg)
Rate : 44

Time to Update.

lvl: 150
Hp: 3051
Magic: 859
Amp: %44
Crit dmg : %126 (including base )
Crit Rate : %44
Defence : 830

Bebopcan
12-08-2008, 15:33
Last Update

Lv : 159
Crit Rate : %44
Crit Dmg : %187 with base
Amp : %40
Magic : 801
Deffence : 913

Simonen
13-08-2008, 17:54
Lv: 122
Crit Rate: 48%
Crit Dmg: 121% with base
Amp: 21% (3 TG wins and I can wear my 2x bos+2)
Magic: around 660-680 can't remember
Defence: around 760

Thedy
13-08-2008, 19:07
Last Update

Lv : 159
Crit Rate : %44
Crit Dmg : %187 with base
Amp : %40
Magic : 801
Deffence : 913


Lol?!?! Pls post ur equimpents :)

Anyway:


Name: Thedy
Lvl: 14x
Magic: 752(+4 blade and +0 crap orb :( )
Amp: 42%
Rate: 59%
Damage: 100%
Def: 889

BaTm1X
13-08-2008, 21:05
Last Update

Lv : 159
Crit Rate : %44
Crit Dmg : %187 with base
Amp : %40
Magic : 801
Deffence : 913


very interesting how did u get 187% dmg and 40% at the same time:rofl1:

IKyub
13-08-2008, 23:37
Amp:
EoS+8: 5%
2*BoS+2 with slot: 14%
Boots, Gloves, Suit: 21%
-> 40% amp

Crit dmg:
Base: 20%
Buffs: 45%
Crit dmg ring: 15%
AoP+4/+5: 5%
Sword, Crystal, Helm: 2*36% + 1*30%
-> 187% crit dmg

Theoretically you can get up to 213%. No joke btw.

EDIT: Sorry, it was late, my bad.

BaTm1X
14-08-2008, 00:28
20+45+15+5+108=188?
Hehe EoS+8...I just asking because it kinda impossible to get 800+ magic with osmium/S.t weapons.And i guess bos+2 slotted useless without bm+aura

mn1302
15-08-2008, 07:34
very interesting how did u get 187% dmg and 40% at the same time:rofl1:

troo,... i guess,... art of snipin? XD too bad fs dont have that one ;p

nathrizarri
15-08-2008, 09:10
server: jupiter
name: 666ozlem666
lvl: 141
magic:810
defence:832
amp: %34
crit rate: 54(52)
crit damage:126(base including)

Using dual bos+3 right now it will be dual bos+4 and 2nd rol+2 is on the way

PinkFloydSLO
15-08-2008, 12:48
server: jupiter
name: PinkFloydSLO
lvl: 133
magic: 819
amp: 18%
rate%: 44
dmg%: 85

it will get better :P

Simonen
16-08-2008, 19:37
Some update:

Lv: 124
Crit Rate: 48% with base
Crit Dmg: 120% with base
Amp: 29% (Finally got honor rank 6)
Magic: 700
Defence: around 753-767 depends on earrings

Dr_SeRiOuS
16-08-2008, 23:57
server: jupiter
name: 666ozlem666
lvl: 141
magic:810
defence:832
amp: %34
crit rate: 54(52)
crit damage:126(base including)

Using dual bos+3 right now it will be dual bos+4 and 2nd rol+2 is on the way

I really want to know your gear...
(and whats your def rate? you will be prbly int build)

nathrizarri
18-08-2008, 14:02
I really want to know your gear...
(and whats your def rate? you will be prbly int build)

let me make an update:

magic: 830
def: 832
amp: %35
crit rate: 59(52)
crit damage: %126
def rate: 1733

dex 268 int 573

36 damage osm armorhelm +6
dual rol+2
aop+5
full amp osm armorset +6 suit's 2nd slot is hp
dual bos+3 and earringofguard+3
eos+7
osm blade of destruction +16 magic 20 crit +6
mithril orb +7 add damage slot(its like %2-3 m.amp in pvps)

damage in character menu by pressing stone cannon: 2037

orb may look bad but check my calculation in force shielder forum

Dr_SeRiOuS
18-08-2008, 17:47
and your armour set is +6? or +7?
can you solo at big?
I can I got like 850 def and 2800 def rate
(full shinguard +6, dex build = 6xx, eog+2, eos+2, 750 magic, eos+6)

nathrizarri
18-08-2008, 17:54
+6 i made a mistake and get defensive sense upgrade but i can solo in big. i kills mobs fast thats a good advantage u know best defence is to attack. And i know a better ex giver soloing spot thats why i dont go to big so often

Crumpets
18-08-2008, 17:56
and your armour set is +6? or +7?
can you solo at big?
I can I got like 850 def and 2800 def rate
(full shinguard +6, dex build = 6xx, eog+2, eos+2, 750 magic, eos+6)

Any mFS can solo big spot from 125+

Just get vamp and use BoJ ....

Dr_SeRiOuS
18-08-2008, 17:58
+6 i made a mistake and get defensive sense upgrade but i can solo in big. i kills mobs fast thats a good advantage u know best defence is to attack. And i know a better ex giver soloing spot thats why i dont go to big so often

and that spot is? :P
Pm is also welcome!

dravy
20-08-2008, 21:43
small update from my side

lvl 152
int build

HP: 3051

Magic 859 ( without archer buff )
Def 858 ( need to +7 some stuff )
Rate: 49 %
DMG: 100 %
AMP: 49 %

misiu16
20-08-2008, 21:48
nice :D maby some day i change my sFs for mFS :P

Crumpets
20-08-2008, 21:48
small update from my side

lvl 151
int build

HP: 3049

Magic 856 ( without archer buff )
Def 845 ( need to +7 some stuff )
Rate: 49 %
DMG: 100 %
AMP: 49 %

Buy my stuff now nub ;p

But yeah, you are getting there ;p

dravy
20-08-2008, 22:13
sry but dont need your nub stuff anymore :P

btw i thought you dont talk english....

Crumpets
20-08-2008, 22:19
sry but dont need your nub stuff anymore :P

btw i thought you dont talk english....

No hablo espanyol ;o

Don't matter sold most of it, jajajajajaja 1.9B richer and still 1.5B to go ! :o

BaTm1X
21-08-2008, 12:46
Time to post my stats:
lvl:156
magic:867
dmg:105%
rate:51%
amp:51%
def:851

bloemkool
22-08-2008, 06:14
Any mFS can solo big spot from 125+

Just get vamp and use BoJ ....

you dont need boj
just vamp is enough

Crumpets
22-08-2008, 06:29
you dont need boj
just vamp is enough

For a lvl 125 BoJ is godly m8 ;p

BaTm1X
22-08-2008, 07:14
BoJ is good not only for surviveing,its also keeps mobs together when they're under stan

tadejtadej7
26-08-2008, 17:56
i have a question....... have u skills like stone cannon etc. on lv20 or lv9???

Manowarr
26-08-2008, 18:02
20, the dmg at lv 9 is too low and results in ugly crits aswell.

So you just cycle thru 6-7 lv 20 skills instead of 3 lv 9s.

tadejtadej7
26-08-2008, 18:05
ty :) i will try it

ShizzleMyDizzle
26-08-2008, 18:49
^time for me ;) [still low lvl :( ]

Build: INT

Gear 1:

lvl:132
magic:713
dmg:100%
rate:49%
amp:33%
def:746

Gear 2:

lvl:132
magic: 689
dmg:110%
rate:49%
amp:33%
def:746

hmm i cant decide what to take what you think? 24more magic but 10%less crit dmg or 10%more crit dmg but 24magic less ?:blind:

another thing.....
what do you think about this:
Of i buy Mithril Blade with 7%magic amp i need more str but dont need that much dex so i could wear my orb on wizzard stats.. i lose about 12magic or sth.. BUT i could wear Mithril Boots and gloves(i saw some nice boots with 7%magic amp on trade channel) that would give me some def boost..
now i wonder if the def(idk how much it would be if some1 knows feel fre to post it) is worth to lose about 12magic...

uniqernx6
26-08-2008, 20:40
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7056/helmrm2.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7056/helmrm2.4b0af53b78.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=261&i=helmrm2.png)



My new helm :p

Manowarr
26-08-2008, 20:41
Gz on your helm nubcake, you got someone to sell you the extender in the end...

P.S.: showoff, go best enchant.

Crumpets
26-08-2008, 20:47
Yeye Uni, you got my helm in osm format haha.

Glad to see you finally got it ;p

EraChan
27-08-2008, 08:44
No hablo espanyol ;o

Don't matter sold most of it, jajajajajaja 1.9B richer and still 1.5B to go ! :o

T_T gimme 100 mil canz? :Pi'll give u a cookie for it?


I think it's kinda lame that magic FS is so much stronger (specialy in pvp) than sFS
i mean.. FS is suppose to use sword skills for the most (he isn't a magic character bij default). Then why is he so much stronger as a magic char? I think it's a waste of the game. Just my opinion though. At any rate i'm sticking to sFS, and will proof to teh world that we rule XD *cough*, in 5 years time :declare:

tadejtadej7
27-08-2008, 14:25
w00t .. what i helm!!! o.O

uniqernx6
01-09-2008, 01:13
time for up


uniq3RN lv 160
Int bulid

104 crit dmg
44 rate
58 amp
893 magic
def 862 ( only 2 items +7 :( and no rw3 :( )

Thedy
01-09-2008, 03:54
time for up


uniq3RN lv 160
Int bulid

104 crit dmg
44 rate
58 amp
893 magic
def 862 ( only 2 items +7 :( and no rw3 :( )

I <3 ur katana mate :) want a same like that :D

cogi64
01-09-2008, 16:06
me too...:d

zokica182
02-09-2008, 05:51
time for up


uniq3RN lv 160
Int bulid

104 crit dmg
44 rate
58 amp
893 magic
def 862 ( only 2 items +7 :( and no rw3 :( )

wow nice magic mate ;)
can you post your gear please ?

GL finding rw3:declare:

Thedy
02-09-2008, 14:57
Update:

Name: Thedy
Level: 148
Build: Int

Crit Dmg: 115%
Crit Rate: 49%
Magic: 785
Amp: 42%
Def: 871( 1 +7 only) :(

uniqernx6
02-09-2008, 16:42
wow nice magic mate ;)
can you post your gear please ?

GL finding rw3:declare:


http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8601/stufkf2.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/stufkf2.png/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img98/stufkf2.png/1/)
+


Rol+2
Crit dmg ring +2
Force reg earrings +4
Vamp earrings +4
Vamp amu +3

zokica182
02-09-2008, 20:37
wow ! you got some nice stuff out there :>

i love your helm,katana & orb


wish i had the money for this stuff :>

uniqernx6
05-09-2008, 22:36
^^ new boots


http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4914/butyyi3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4914/butyyi3.e742c851cc.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=301&i=butyyi3.jpg)

pouffy
05-09-2008, 23:12
are you selling the old ones ? :p

uniqernx6
05-09-2008, 23:15
are you selling the old ones ? :p

sold :( :(

ShizzleMyDizzle
05-09-2008, 23:54
update:

name:haxX
lvl:133
magic:751
amp:32%
crit dmg:100(with buff, dont know wahts base if there is any^^)
deff: 768

yea i think i do pretty good for my lvl... :)

jemmo
06-09-2008, 07:46
base for crit dmg is 20%, crit rate base is 5% :)

nice stats btw :D

ShizzleMyDizzle
06-09-2008, 08:09
thx^^ so i got 120%crit dmg xD about crit rate i knew...


and thx :9 i worked hard on it xD

jemmo
06-09-2008, 08:37
I just bought a Lapis Orb for going magic :o

2 slots clean and +16 magic crafted :p
^ looks as a good start item to me

dravy
06-09-2008, 08:52
^^ new boots


http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4914/butyyi3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4914/butyyi3.e742c851cc.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=301&i=butyyi3.jpg)

nice pair of boots and i was proud with 5 % amp and 100 hp :)
grz for those you should get the crafted suite too now :D

ShizzleMyDizzle
06-09-2008, 09:14
well i see 5% gloves/boots dbl slotted for 50-60kk lol^^
never saw 7%gloves/boots dbl slotted
and suit is about 350kk lol^^

emodan
06-09-2008, 09:37
well atm these are my items

katana wont +6 but i wont give up
orb wont +7 so i did give up ill buy mith once i can afford it
boots i want 7% osm with 100hp but well 2 months and no luck so ill just +7 these st



http://i37.tinypic.com/m9vaft.jpg

uniqernx6
06-09-2008, 10:00
nice gloves :p i need only perfect gloves now xD comon to mars and sell me it ^^

btw i use same crystal yo your orb and orb mithril with crit dmg or amp is much better ;]

emodan
06-09-2008, 10:11
nice gloves :p i need only perfect gloves now xD comon to mars and sell me it ^^

btw i use same crystal yo your orb and orb mithril with crit dmg or amp is much better ;]

yeah i plan to get orb with amp or crit dmg +6 eventualy
went ft made some best so far is sword amp
so guess ill save up more money and craft some more
i plan to make 5 at once maybe more

jemmo
06-09-2008, 10:59
Started to rebuild my SFS to MFS today...
Got a long way to go though :)

Once I have something decent I'll post it up.
(I think I can get up to 760-780 magic)

emodan
06-09-2008, 11:04
if i dont have boots u can borrow my 4% amp osm 100hp+6

episode one boots ftw
suck now kinda

jemmo
06-09-2008, 11:07
if i dont have boots u can borrow my 4% amp osm 100hp+6

episode one boots ftw
suck now kinda

No thnx mate :D I still have my 270 hp tita +6 boots (lol :( )

ShizzleMyDizzle
06-09-2008, 13:21
yeah i finaly got my mithril orb with crit dmg.. now i only need katana but there is no one selling :/ so i need to craft... damn... i will post my equip soon

ShizzleMyDizzle
07-09-2008, 19:40
here it is:

name:haxX
lvl:133
magic:751
amp:32%
crit dmg:100(with buff, dont know wahts base if there is any^^)
deff: 768

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3924/cabaleqhaxxyy9.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3924/cabaleqhaxxyy9.2e9a7610e4.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=167&i=cabaleqhaxxyy9.png)

zokica182
09-09-2008, 04:50
if i dont have boots u can borrow my 4% amp osm 100hp+6

episode one boots ftw
suck now kinda

can you borrow them to me :P

im kinda new mfs lv97 widouth stuff only amped suit :/

xidaozuboy
12-09-2008, 16:25
hmm i have one question, what will be better? osmium blade+6+20%damage and pherystin crystal +6+7%magic+24%damage or mithril blade/katana and orb magic amps in slot?? or other? and max price 1,5kkk;]

ShizzleMyDizzle
12-09-2008, 16:37
orb and katana with m.amp.. you gain a lot mor emagic with them.. more magic=amp works better=more dmg=owning xD

x901
12-09-2008, 16:45
Mithril katana and orb magic amp,for pherystin magic u will have bad magic,well u can go for DB osm katana,and mithril magic amp orb .

bloemkool
12-09-2008, 17:07
update:

magic: 880
def: 942
amp: 51
rate: 44
dmg: 116

uniqernx6
15-09-2008, 04:08
nice nice ^^

tehnix
15-09-2008, 09:07
update: Tehnix - Jupiter - 167

magic:890
amp:44%
crit dmg:130%
crit rate:51%
def:897(only 1 +7 item, I always fail :()
hp:3132

xidaozuboy
15-09-2008, 14:34
What sets u prefer:D? mithril?? i think osmium is the best,,,, dont need a lot of str and dex;P only int^^

Thedy
23-09-2008, 00:05
A little update:
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/1103/statlq2.png

ShizzleMyDizzle
23-09-2008, 15:18
update:


name:haxX
lvl:136
magic:782
amp:41%
crit dmg:115%
deff: 790

evalduxxxxxxxx
24-09-2008, 12:34
name:ShiFTe
lvl:150
magic:827
amp:43%
crit dmg:121%
crit rate:44%
deff: 840

tehnix
28-09-2008, 08:54
UPdate:

Tehnix - 169 - Jupiter

got some new items, one of them is this


http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5268/statswr7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)




and had to change some stats for it.

Even though I lost nearly 100int, I think it's worth it ;)

My stats on this screenshot are with 2x eog+4 and pain+4(need to get better one), and no +7 item except for the suit. The higher def makes a noticeable difference in dmg received, and I "feel" no real loss in dmg done, however I aint good with calculations.

Stats:

HP:2967
Def:971

crit dmg:135%
crit rate:51%
amp:51%
magic:873

edit: I left the pet-stats out.

evalduxxxxxxxx
28-09-2008, 08:57
imba mfs o.O

gamblingman
28-09-2008, 13:22
So guys stop posting ur stats after tehnix show his. He is obviously the best mfs on eu cabal. I doubt some1 can reach him soon

uniqernx6
28-09-2008, 13:27
So guys stop posting ur stats after tehnix show his. He is obviously the best mfs on eu cabal. I doubt some1 can reach him soon
Mars wellcome u ^.^
Stats :

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4747/statyyyyyyyyyyyyyyud6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/statyyyyyyyyyyyyyyud6.jpg/1/w317.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img90/statyyyyyyyyyyyyyyud6.jpg/1/)

SET :

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4416/settttttttmd4.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/settttttttmd4.png/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img81/settttttttmd4.png/1/)

;

119 crit dmg
58 amp
magic 894 ( low lv -.- )
rate 30 ( cuz in ft b2f i always use aura + bm1 +18 rate= 48 rate ;) )

We can also wait for Gatzuaa/blomkool and Pen from merc lol XD btw tehnix tell me what helm u use :P

x901
28-09-2008, 14:20
i think shadow tita 7% rate 40% crit dmg +6

tehnix
28-09-2008, 14:47
i think shadow tita 7% rate 40% crit dmg +6

correct.


@uniqern awesome katana, wish we had one like this on jup, gz to that.

I'm thinking about changing my crit dmg orb to amp orb and use same weapons as you(ofcourse no crafted katana), but atm I lack some alz :)


So guys stop posting ur stats after tehnix show his. He is obviously the best mfs on eu cabal. I doubt some1 can reach him soon

there is (hardly) no way that a jupiter player can be "the best" in one of his class, because of 2 reasons:

1. less ppl on jupiter, so less drops/good drops like uniqern's katana
2. not a single weapon/orb crafter above aqua/ST

penryujin
30-09-2008, 17:19
So guys stop posting ur stats after tehnix show his. He is obviously the best mfs on eu cabal. I doubt some1 can reach him soon

heh i got better stats :P

anyway gz on the stats tehnix :) very impressive and especially for jupiter!
I'm almost done with my fs...2 more things and there wont be anything left for me to do really.
btw my newest toy :p
http://i36.tinypic.com/2cwjsqd.jpg

zokica182
30-09-2008, 17:22
Auch +7 !

Very nice :)

Noah
30-09-2008, 17:23
heh i got better stats :P

anyway gz on the stats tehnix :) very impressive and especially for jupiter!
I'm almost done with my fs...2 more things and there wont be anything left for me to do really.
btw my newest toy :p
http://i36.tinypic.com/2cwjsqd.jpg



Pen is the best mana FS in Europe,period.

pikachu
30-09-2008, 17:30
heh i got better stats :P

anyway gz on the stats tehnix :) very impressive and especially for jupiter!
I'm almost done with my fs...2 more things and there wont be anything left for me to do really.
btw my newest toy :p
http://i36.tinypic.com/2cwjsqd.jpg

hi
is it possible to post all your gear :)

ShizzleMyDizzle
30-09-2008, 21:36
rofl gz pen... 190magic nice.. with that orb i would have 820magic on lvl 137 xD

Kapa
01-10-2008, 04:50
heh i got better stats :P

anyway gz on the stats tehnix :) very impressive and especially for jupiter!
I'm almost done with my fs...2 more things and there wont be anything left for me to do really.
btw my newest toy :p
http://i36.tinypic.com/2cwjsqd.jpg
Man, upgrade my all set to +7.... ^_^ ( 3 mithril parts , 3 osmium : P)

tehnix
02-10-2008, 12:49
update:

still not 170 :(

Stats:

HP:2967
Def:1021(no accurate number, I'm not ingame atm, could be more though)

crit dmg:135%
crit rate:53%
amp:51%
magic:873

I always thought a high def is pretty much useless because of the high dmg loss, but now I can really notice huge differences, exspecially in FT2.

ShillianSaint
04-10-2008, 22:40
gz for lvl 170 tehnix ure now officiali Jupiters nr 1 FS

zokica182
05-10-2008, 10:43
WOW Nice Def!

Gratz Tehnix

XanZy
05-10-2008, 10:48
Tehnix the best mFS !!! :]

tehnix
05-10-2008, 11:31
this should be the last update for a while, unless I find some cheats for +7ing my stuff:

Tehnix - 170 (finally :)) - Jupiter

my stats in "dmg" set:

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/5812/mystatsuc1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

HP:3069
Def:1030

magic:879
crit dmg:125%
crit rate:53%
amp:58%

I changed my orb from crit dmg to amp :)

XanZy
05-10-2008, 12:37
this should be the last update for a while, unless I find some cheats for +7ing my stuff:

Tehnix - 170 (finally :)) - Jupiter

my stats in "dmg" set:

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/5812/mystatsuc1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

HP:3069
Def:1030

magic:879
crit dmg:125%
crit rate:53%
amp:58%

I changed my orb from crit dmg to amp :)
:adore::adore::adore::adore::adore::adore::adore:: adore::adore::adore:

mn1302
05-10-2008, 13:36
this should be the last update for a while, unless I find some cheats for +7ing my stuff:

Tehnix - 170 (finally :)) - Jupiter

my stats in "dmg" set:

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/5812/mystatsuc1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

HP:3069
Def:1030

magic:879
crit dmg:125%
crit rate:53%
amp:58%

I changed my orb from crit dmg to amp :)

pix of all ur set? (like whats +7 n what not,... ;p)
(not yet had a mith suit dropt with 14% magic amp? ;-)

ShizzleMyDizzle
05-10-2008, 15:31
Tehnix the best mFS !!! :]

PENDRAGOn is better :P

tehnix what gloves you use lol

tehnix
06-10-2008, 06:35
pix of all ur set? (like whats +7 n what not,... ;p)
(not yet had a mith suit dropt with 14% magic amp? ;-)

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/4285/setsg9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I'm a noob with paint :D

mn1302
06-10-2008, 17:49
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/4285/setsg9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I'm a noob with paint :D

my gut tells me yer suit will be the next item yer looking for,... (and doing yer helm to +7 maybe)

(mith suit with magic amp in slot?)

or something more creative? (14%amp r so :p )

(24 more magic on the orb and 24 on the katana if u do em both to +7 so thats another 48 magic u can gain? :S)

more edit: maybe slotted bos+7 with amp in slot? XD

zokica182
06-10-2008, 17:54
OH MY GOD!

Pendragon show us ur set :p

IKyub
06-10-2008, 18:29
(24 more magic on the orb and 24 on the katana if u do em both to +7 so thats another 48 magic u can gain? :S)


24 from orb, 16 from katana, total of 40 magic

mn1302
06-10-2008, 21:06
24 from orb, 16 from katana, total of 40 magic

only 16 from katana ;S

oh well 40 magic is worth mentioning tbh ;p

evalduxxxxxxxx
08-10-2008, 20:07
deathblow gloves,i see such first time o.O

mn1302
08-10-2008, 21:55
deathblow gloves,i see such first time o.O

yeh me too

and with max critrate,...

maybe thats an option that can only come on mith crafts,...


or thats just soo rare,... i thought only rate/dmg could be,...

(and db gloves,... by prof crafts that aint possible afaik)

and gddamnit
that high defense,...
how much would sfs get more in comparison?

tehnix
09-10-2008, 07:20
yeh me too

and with max critrate,...

maybe thats an option that can only come on mith crafts,...


or thats just soo rare,... i thought only rate/dmg could be,...

(and db gloves,... by prof crafts that aint possible afaik)

and gddamnit
that high defense,...
how much would sfs get more in comparison?

deathblow on gloves is only available via drop, and only on mithril(afaik), never seen something like this on non-mithril items.

besides, there can also be deathblow on boots/suits, also with 1% max rate.

a sfs with equal set like mine should have about 1050-1070 defense, but this is just a guess and no calculation.

evalduxxxxxxxx
09-10-2008, 16:59
i doubt about boots,haven't seen any with max crit rate in slot.

but update

lvl 152
amp 43%
crit rate 44%
crit dmg 121%
magic 840
def 870
hp~2900

DustBit3
09-10-2008, 19:22
deathblow on gloves is only available via drop, and only on mithril(afaik), never seen something like this on non-mithril items.

besides, there can also be deathblow on boots/suits, also with 1% max rate.

Why boots? It's not even possible to get Max critrate or rate in them.


Inquisitor;676382']Anything Available in the slots are available in the epic options of an item.

An epic option is a bound and strengthened slot value, yes this means deathblow suits are also possible.

PinkFloydSLO
10-10-2008, 08:06
this should be the last update for a while, unless I find some cheats for +7ing my stuff:

Tehnix - 170 (finally :)) - Jupiter

my stats in "dmg" set:

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/5812/mystatsuc1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

HP:3069
Def:1030

magic:879
crit dmg:125%
crit rate:53%
amp:58%

I changed my orb from crit dmg to amp :)

omfg :queen:

BuLLd0G
10-10-2008, 08:15
you beat the game :P

nivla
10-10-2008, 15:26
1 question guys..

how different it is to use an mFS on PVE (grinding in MF) compared to a sFS? isnt it a bit hard especially if there are lots of mobs?

evalduxxxxxxxx
10-10-2008, 16:01
sfs has big aoe,so it's good in places with many mobs around,like CA

nivla
10-10-2008, 23:37
but, does mfs lag behind big time when it comes to places with many mobs?

Puumeri
10-10-2008, 23:54
Well not really. Cannons got kinda good aoe on close range and you leech your HP back faster than sfs.

bloemkool
11-10-2008, 09:17
Well not really. Cannons got kinda good aoe on close range and you leech your HP back faster than sfs.

enough to tank all mobs and pluma in ca when using bm2+aura :clapping:

mn1302
11-10-2008, 16:04
deathblow on gloves is only available via drop, and only on mithril(afaik), never seen something like this on non-mithril items.

besides, there can also be deathblow on boots/suits, also with 1% max rate.

a sfs with equal set like mine should have about 1050-1070 defense, but this is just a guess and no calculation.

52 def difrence if same "needed" stats, and rest in str, or rest in int,...
:-)

so sfs would have 52 def more (str build)
though the change of katana/blade and orb/crystal i didnt calculate the difrence in def u get from more/less int and dex,...

ShizzleMyDizzle
11-10-2008, 22:27
Technix respect. I ain't got no words to espress my opinion... Yep, U beat the game. Your set is incredible Have you tried to kill Pluma or Quadra solo or even thought about that ? ^^

rofl.. have fun..

Thedy
12-10-2008, 14:27
Technix respect. I ain't got no words to espress my opinion... Yep, U beat the game. Your set is incredible Have you tried to kill Pluma or Quadra solo or even thought about that ? ^^

Rolf u know what ur talking 'bout?Pluma solo?Have u ever tryed to kill pluma even with a party? :D

evalduxxxxxxxx
12-10-2008, 16:29
I tried solo, removed 99% hp and then i died q.q when i came back he was full again :<

j/k ofc :]

Rspike
12-10-2008, 17:02
Guys, i went +190hp osm boots instead of amp. And it's much easier to win pvps now.

ShizzleMyDizzle
12-10-2008, 17:54
Guys, i went +190hp osm boots instead of amp. And it's much easier to win pvps now.

NOT !! :P

Rspike
12-10-2008, 18:15
Fail At Funny

PinkFloydSLO
13-10-2008, 09:24
Guys, i went +190hp osm boots instead of amp. And it's much easier to win pvps now.

lol. i dont think so :acute:

Rspike
13-10-2008, 13:19
Bleh did few tests against other classes and already sold my boots. xD

ShizzleMyDizzle
13-10-2008, 13:53
like i said :P 7% amp beats 190hp

PinkFloydSLO
13-10-2008, 15:21
a question? what is better... topaz orb+6 with 10% crit dmg or aqua orb +6 with 7%amp

have some1 tryed the diffrence? :P

Djiel
13-10-2008, 19:32
hmm cool topic..

magic: 811 (no fa buff)
amp: 44% (gloves, suit, boots, blade, eos6, 2x bos4, pet 1% xD)
crit rate: 44% (1x rol2, buff, 5 base)
crit dmg: 115% (base 20, 15% ring, 30% helm, aop4 5%, orb 10%)

mithril blade +6
mithril orb +4 (so could get another 18 magic if +6)
as helm is 30%, i could get atleast another 6%

i'd prefer amp orb due to low rate, but no such alz =)

stats: 335 str, 700 int, 134 dex

im definitely not the best mfs and i will never claim to be.. but i think i do ok ^^

zokica182
14-10-2008, 13:24
my noobie fs:) Lv127
magic:666 :evil: :D
amp:22% (class 5only so no bos's)
crit rate: 44%(1xrol2, buff, 5base)
crit dmg:147%

looking to buy mith katana +5 7%m. amp

stats(low xD)

str 276 int 469 dex 276
hp:2306
def:773

Thats all for now :-)

ShizzleMyDizzle
14-10-2008, 14:14
name:haxX
lvl:138
magic:802
amp:44%
crit dmg:115%
deff: 805

misiu16
14-10-2008, 15:16
Name: MiSu
LvL: 156
Magic: 855
Amp: 51%
Crit dmg:116%
deff:.... suck

PinkFloydSLO
16-10-2008, 17:46
Name: PinkFloydSLO
Lvl: 140
Magic: 739
Amp: 35%
Rate: 44%
Crit.dmg: 117%
Def: 749 -.-"

:P

evalduxxxxxxxx
16-10-2008, 18:55
a bit update

Name:ShiFTe
Magic:862
Amp:44%
Rate:44%
Crit dmg:120%
def is ~860

LeDocteur
17-10-2008, 03:29
a question? what is better... topaz orb+6 with 10% crit dmg or aqua orb +6 with 7%amp

have some1 tryed the diffrence? :P

imho, topaz is better.
Aqua just doesn't have enough magic on it to be useful with amp. Amp is good with 99+ weaps and mith.

alicantino
19-10-2008, 09:21
Name: frank88
magic: 860 No Fa buff
Amp: 37%(dont have amp in boot,still)
Rate: 51%
Dmg: 112%
Def: 836
lvl: 151

goodnigt
29-10-2008, 15:53
magic: 790
amp: 46
crit rate :59
crit dmg:143
def: 827
lvl 141

^^

uniqernx6
30-10-2008, 16:57
Finnaly 902 magic ;D

southerncomfor
30-10-2008, 19:54
Hey i have a qestion

Whats better:

1. Mithril Orb/katana +6 with m.amp
or
2. Osmi katana +7 30 dmg + Mithril Orb +6 with m.amp
or
3. Osmi katana +7 30 dmg + Topaz Orb +7 30 dmg

and plz say me why u think that ur coise is the best one

Senseless
30-10-2008, 20:03
Give the Topaz and Mith orb to me xD

ShizzleMyDizzle
30-10-2008, 20:26
hmm i dont realy know .. i think 1 or 2 is best.. if it would be 36%dmg katana.. it would be better then then mith katana.. but i dont know how it is with 30% dmg :/


im using mith katana and orb

dravy
05-11-2008, 09:20
Update:

lvl 157

863 Magic
829 Def (nothing +7 yet / no bike )
45 % Crit Rate
100 % Crit DMG
58 % AMP

3254 HP

Hestalon
05-11-2008, 16:30
lvl 146

778 Magic
781 Def
48% rate
141% Dmg
29% Amp
2688 HP

Katana keeps failing
Need Amp gloves ^^

Thedy
05-11-2008, 17:15
Update:
Level: 151
HP: 2779
Magic: 802
Defense: 880
Crit rate: 44%
Crit damage: 120%
Amplificaion: 46%

ShizzleMyDizzle
05-11-2008, 17:18
Update:
Level: 140
Magic: 788 <- orb+katana keeps failing :/ (with durated eos+7 808)
Defense: 823
Crit rate: 49%
Crit damage: 105%
Amp: 41% (with durated eos+7 44%)

IKyub
07-11-2008, 23:47
Name: IDante
Level: 161

Magic: 878
Amp: 51%
Crit dmg: 121%
Crit rate: 44%
Def: 905

First and last update.

Farewell~

dravy
11-11-2008, 12:29
which server are you one ?

anyway update from me:

LvL: 155

HP: 3249 ( without any buff )

Magic: 860
Def: 828 ( nothing +7 yet )
Amp: 58 %
Crit Rate: 45 %
Crit DMG: 100%

nivla
12-11-2008, 02:06
wow, you guys really have high magic..would that be only possible if i use mithril orb/katana?

zokica182
12-11-2008, 16:06
yep update from me comming soon im off now :-)

WhiteDeviL9
12-11-2008, 18:31
Mars wellcome u ^.^
Stats :

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4747/statyyyyyyyyyyyyyyud6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/statyyyyyyyyyyyyyyud6.jpg/1/w317.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img90/statyyyyyyyyyyyyyyud6.jpg/1/)

SET :

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4416/settttttttmd4.png (http://imageshack.us)
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/settttttttmd4.png/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img81/settttttttmd4.png/1/)

;

119 crit dmg
58 amp
magic 894 ( low lv -.- )
rate 30 ( cuz in ft b2f i always use aura + bm1 +18 rate= 48 rate ;) )

We can also wait for Gatzuaa/blomkool and Pen from merc lol XD btw tehnix tell me what helm u use :P

How did you get amp in that helm?!!! I thought amp was drop only, and this is clearly an extended item!!!

Simonen
12-11-2008, 18:58
And why you have 268 dex? You can use the katana with bladers req, and lower your dex to like ~110 if I'm right.

x901
12-11-2008, 19:29
How did you get amp in that helm?!!! I thought amp was drop only, and this is clearly an extended item!!!

he dropped it 2 slot 1st magic amp,then extended.so 3 slots

dravy
12-11-2008, 19:31
And why you have 268 dex? You can use the katana with bladers req, and lower your dex to like ~110 if I'm right.

reading *** for s9 knowledge but blader req for katana +6 -> Dex: 402

equanimity
12-11-2008, 21:47
well my stats;
quake, Lvl 148

Magic: 848
Amp: 44%
Crit dmg: 143%
Crit rate: 44%
Def: 808

im still a half dex build, need to +7 my osm kata,to +6 mith. orb, get minimum the next rank up ...

ft time was 5 mins left with potions ... without them depends (close) but ok if the tactic is fine.

@ dravy (nog ?) be quiet with attacking/blame a guild ...

nivla
12-11-2008, 22:43
hi guys. another question..

although i know it is much better to use an orb that is lower than lapiz / topaz with 2slot and a deathblow craft, but is it worth the def that you will lose from having a lower level astral shield?

because right now on our servers, i have yet to see an aqua orb of DB with 2 slot...so if il probably use an orb of db, it would be pherystin..

thanks in advance for your help guys!

x901
13-11-2008, 04:33
yes you will lose defense but little,at level 10 astral shield <Mithril Crystal/Orb>you will have 41 defense,Topaz i think 39 Defense, Lapis 33 defense.

nivla
13-11-2008, 10:13
ok. so does that make a pherystin orb of DB a worthy choice? or should i just stick using topaz orb even if 1 slot for the meantime until i see and aqua orb of DB?

Hestalon
13-11-2008, 13:07
For a Magic FS you have a need to get as much as magic.....
so in my opinion try to get Mithril with amp or Crit dmg, a Topaz 2 slot is also nice ^^

Cause you dont really have a need to get more dmg or rate a FS have more than enough of both ....

Simonen
13-11-2008, 13:49
reading *** for s9 knowledge but blader req for katana +6 -> Dex: 402

Nvm that looks so much 102... Crap font ftl

zokica182
13-11-2008, 13:59
can someone magic fsy that is a nice guy and a honest hardworking player please pm me
i have items to give out and so far found nobody who deserves them

on mercury btw

hey im a nice guy x)

btw ur quiting ?:dong:

nivla
13-11-2008, 23:48
For a Magic FS you have a need to get as much as magic.....
so in my opinion try to get Mithril with amp or Crit dmg, a Topaz 2 slot is also nice ^^

Cause you dont really have a need to get more dmg or rate a FS have more than enough of both ....

thanks for the enlightenment. so if i understand your advice correctly, instead of going for a pherystin orb of DB (10% CD) with 20% on the slot, it would be much better to use a mithril with amp / crit damage. if i still can't afford that, using a 2 slotted topaz with 20% Crit Damage on the slot would do.

zokica182
14-11-2008, 23:12
try to get osm/lapis 20%dmg or of DB (at least what i did)
and then when u get money simply change to mith amp
mith katana amp is not expensive(around 300kk)*cough*

i think when u get higher lvl you can switch to osm/lapis 36% dmg :)

SoundOfSilence
15-11-2008, 10:14
try to get osm/lapis 20%dmg or of DB (at least what i did)
and then when u get money simply change to mith amp
mith katana amp is not expensive(around 300kk)*cough*

i think when u get higher lvl you can switch to osm/lapis 36% dmg :)

Never change to osm/lapis 36 dmg. Remember, you are a mFS and what you have to do is, getting as much as amp and magic as you can. mFS are not crit-dependant characters, so they dont have to get so much crit dmg.

ShizzleMyDizzle
15-11-2008, 13:12
belive me its better if you use 36% dmg katana +7 and mithril orb +7 ;) you have enough magic with it ;) but its kinda hard to get

zokica182
15-11-2008, 15:49
little bump :girl_wink:

H8M4CHINE
LV134
HP:2667
DEF:729 ( widouth shield & buff )
MAGIC:747
AMP:32%
CRIT RATE:44%
CRIT DMG:127%

Stuff:
27%dmg armor helm +6
7%amp 50hp suit +6
5%amp shineguard gloves +6
7%amp ST boots +6
Mithril Katana 7%amp +5
Lapis orb 20%crit dmg +6

2x BOS+3
Vamp earring +2/+3

ROL+2 & Critical ring +2
AOB+7

that's me :yahoo:

nivla
19-11-2008, 09:17
another question guys, right now im only using redOSM katana 1 slot (10% CD). im planning ang saving up to be able to buy titanium katana of db (20%CD on slot, 10%CD craft, since i still can't affor a perfect one). would that be a good upgrade? or should i just save up for a perfect craft weapon, and just look for a 2 slotted OSM katana for the meantime?

dravy
19-11-2008, 11:05
another question guys, right now im only using redOSM katana 1 slot (10% CD). im planning ang saving up to be able to buy titanium katana of db (20%CD on slot, 10%CD craft, since i still can't affor a perfect one). would that be a good upgrade? or should i just save up for a perfect craft weapon, and just look for a 2 slotted OSM katana for the meantime?

if you are mfs, i guess so because this is mfs thread then go for mithril weapon if you plan to wear armor.

WhiteDeviL9
19-11-2008, 11:41
STR: 283
INT: 683
DEX: 223

Magic: 804
Def: 856
Hit Rate: 2222
Def Rate: 1674

nivla
20-11-2008, 01:29
if you are mfs, i guess so because this is mfs thread then go for mithril weapon if you plan to wear armor.

so that means, il just stick with redosm[1] / topaz orb [1] for the meantime and just try to save up to be able to afford mithril katana/orb msa?

ShizzleMyDizzle
20-11-2008, 05:28
yep... you could by a 36%dm osm katana too :P

dravy
20-11-2008, 21:31
Update:

lvl 158

HP: 3301

Magic: 863
Def: 876 (3/4 Items +7 )
Crit Rate: 45 %
Crit DMG: 116 &
Amp: 53 %

Hestalon
21-11-2008, 05:27
Update:

lvl still 146

hp: 2688

Magic: 786
Def: 772
Crit rate: 48%
Crit dmg: 151%
Amp: 36%

Nothing +7, with Base

Hisayo
21-11-2008, 18:46
Update:

lvl 157

HP: 3299

Magic: 863
Def: 851 (only 1 Item +7 )
Crit Rate: 45 %
Crit DMG: 116 &
Amp: 53 %

the magic is low and def :laugh1:

evalduxxxxxxxx
21-11-2008, 19:50
um sunny,i hab such magic, and allmost same def ;D but my hp r way lower o.O

DeadLiN3X
21-11-2008, 20:42
3299HP

O.o

of will?

dravy
21-11-2008, 23:04
the magic is low and def :laugh1:

i think your magic isnt higher ......

and my def is without r3 so **** and you can duell me if you want and we will see

3299 is without ANY of will stuff

Thedy
22-11-2008, 02:16
i think your magic isnt higher ......

and my def is without r3 so **** and you can duell me if you want and we will see

3299 is without ANY of will stuff

WTH? no will and 3299 hp?

tehnix
22-11-2008, 06:12
WTH? no will and 3299 hp?

maybe pet, maybe amp crafted suit/boots, with 100hp in slots, maybe even extended.

dravy
22-11-2008, 08:25
yeah tehnix is right crafted Suite / Boots / Black Board / Hp in Pet / Earings

Hestalon
22-11-2008, 12:23
btw anyone of you think i can do FT solo with the stats i postet ?

also a nice tactic would be nice ^^
thx

Bleackh
28-11-2008, 22:44
nice thread :D

zokica182
01-12-2008, 13:34
Bring
Up
This
Thread

dravy
03-12-2008, 15:02
k update:

LvL 160

3399 HP

871 Magic
896 Def

116 % Crit DMG
45 % Crit Rate
53 % AMP

KillerPlanet
03-12-2008, 15:23
How many hp and def did u have at lvl 160 ?

dravy
03-12-2008, 15:50
the stlye up gives you 7 def and 93 HP if that was the question oO

nivla
04-12-2008, 16:59
hi guys!
just want to ask, what combo do you usually use in pvp/pve? i assume both situation do have a different set of combo?

im still looking for the best DPS based combo..

ShizzleMyDizzle
04-12-2008, 17:17
pvp:
aqua lance -> fire lance -> tera lance -> flying shield -> tera canon -> fire canon

all lvl20 except flying shield->19

pve: dont know atm need to look xD

nivla
04-12-2008, 18:05
tera cannon? or stone canon?

PinkFloydSLO
04-12-2008, 18:13
terra lance ... stone cannon

zokica182
04-12-2008, 18:13
thats the same :)

edit: pink floyd was faster than me :=)

Djiel
05-12-2008, 00:07
pvp:
aqua lance -> fire lance -> tera lance -> flying shield -> tera canon -> fire canon

all lvl20 except flying shield->19

pve: dont know atm need to look xD

why flying shield? doesnt seem worth it
and seems to me you have too many lances, i bet its not effective enough vs warriors

edit; i see you are on merc.. pvp sometime for fun? :D

nivla
05-12-2008, 01:42
fast cast..probably good for players not wearing armor suit..

do you have a combo for armor type players?

ShizzleMyDizzle
05-12-2008, 13:09
try flying shield xD i ddint belived it too.. but it fraking rocks^^ and about wa´s i can beat them xD but hard.. vs wa i use more cannons^^

Djiel
05-12-2008, 16:23
ok.. i tried it, interesting combo definitely
but i still dont get it, why not a cannon instead? more dmg(almost 200) and 0.5s faster :/
(or is it actually not faster and does the flying shield description lie? ^^)

tehnix
05-12-2008, 16:49
ok.. i tried it, interesting combo definitely
but i still dont get it, why not a cannon instead? more dmg(almost 200) and 0.5s faster :/
(or is it actually not faster and does the flying shield description lie? ^^)

flying shield cast time is about 0,5 sec in combo.

only stone canon and fire canon are worth using, the rest is too low dmg together with too high cast time.

Djiel
05-12-2008, 17:11
i see.. ok nice to know :)
seems i still have a lot to learn xD
thanks!

ShizzleMyDizzle
05-12-2008, 22:33
tehinx why you are useing lightning lance/cannon? o.0

tehnix
05-12-2008, 23:33
tehinx why you are useing lightning lance/cannon? o.0

i'm not using lightning canon.

ShizzleMyDizzle
06-12-2008, 08:11
but lance^^

tehnix
06-12-2008, 08:21
my pc is very bad, which means I have a maximum of 15 fps ingame.
when I try to combo in dungeons with a high speed combo, which includes the flying shield skill, it will most likely brake and reaching 11+ combo is impossible then.

for this situation I use a slower combo, which includes lightning lance and also aqua lance.

less dmg and dps, but best I can do with my pc.

PinkFloydSLO
06-12-2008, 14:48
pvp:
aqua lance -> fire lance -> tera lance -> flying shield -> tera canon -> fire canon

all lvl20 except flying shield->19

pve: dont know atm need to look xD

i use flying shield after first skill i cast.. so i can cast it 2times in pvp agains high hp "enemy" ^^

shujiinko
14-12-2008, 13:47
my stuff with base + buff (without FA buff)
Level: 149
Build: Balanced path Dex
Magic:742
Rate: 51%
Amp: 41%
Dmg: 204%
Def: 1004
Def Rate: 2653

Kimes
14-12-2008, 15:38
how u got 203 dmg with 51 rate?

shujiinko
14-12-2008, 16:51
where is the prob? i count with base and buff, 15% rol+2, 24% buff, 7% helm, 5%base = 51%

Kimes
14-12-2008, 17:43
oh, so gz for the helm

Anaurelia
14-12-2008, 19:56
my stuff with base + buff (without FA buff)
Level: 149
Build: Balanced path Dex
Magic:742
Rate: 51%
Amp: 41%
Dmg: 203%
Def: 1004
Def Rate: 2653


and how do u get 203%dmg?
if i count 40% helm + 80% weapons + 45% buff + 10% aop+6 + 20%base = 195%
so u must have 4 times (8%) critdmg in pet or 3 times (6%) and both weapons filled all 3 slots with critdmg (so +2%)?

evalduxxxxxxxx
14-12-2008, 20:18
there exists critical ring mate. :) coz he's using one ROL +2

King*S*....*K*
14-12-2008, 20:22
but dravy would beat him easily

Anaurelia
14-12-2008, 20:41
there exists critical ring mate. :) coz he's using one ROL +2

ups yeah forgot about crit ring+2, cuz i tought he use 2 rol+2 :o (im too much wi for this ;) )

but im still curious what set he uses to get this amount of crit dmg

shujiinko
15-12-2008, 12:00
got it XDD tip false: 80 weap + 40 helm + 45 buff + 15 CR + 20 base + 4 pet= 204% sorry

Anaurelia
15-12-2008, 14:32
nice amount of critdmg. just get ur a aop for even more dmg boost ;)

zokica182
15-12-2008, 15:03
can you post your set pl0x ?

shujiinko
15-12-2008, 15:29
aop+6 -_- for me still hopefull but since i don't play alot i don't think got it one day.
@zokica182 only katana and helm new since this -> http://forum.cabalonline.com/showpost.php?p=832902&postcount=4

shujiinko
15-12-2008, 15:32
ros+10 should be nice to up my magic base a little more instead of crit ring

Anaurelia
16-12-2008, 05:19
i love ur pet, rly nice with 2%hpsteal and 4%cridmg and add dmg is also not that worse

zokica182
17-12-2008, 13:46
omg uber gear n1!

dravy
17-12-2008, 14:20
omg uber gear n1!

for an sword shielder sure but isnt that good for an Magic Shielder

for example :

Stone Cannon his equip:
Non Crit: 249 DMG
Crit: 758 DMG

Stone Cannon with my Equip ( Mithril Weapons Magic AMP )
Non Crit: 351 DMG
Crit: 759 DMG

Calculation done with lvl 20 Stone Cannon and 900 Target Defense