New combo

[beliashas]

Ok,hi evberybody!:clap3: New episode-new skills-new skills-new combo... It would be great if u would write me ur new ep2 combo for pvp and pve.. Btw im comp (22/62) and reg..Waiting for ur replyes...

[XenodragoonE]

impact - wave - sw cannon - charge - r. blade - ww (pvp). can be shortened if i done over- dmg already.

[kirmaster]

xeno's is the better amp combo, but for those with a not as good amp, wave>ww>wave>doom>wave>ww>wave will do fine as well. since wave does 1,5 times the DPS of WW, just get it in as often as you can:P(calcuated with my warrior with 725 atk)

[XenodragoonE]

if yu put wave in your combo 2 times, your dps wont be better. remember wave is slower than cascade in combo and perhaps same speed as sw cannon. wa combo should stay the fastest way to cast gm combo (pve) cuz ww is still the most powerful dmg in time skill. for pvp its almost the same, wave 2 times in combo is a risk to the dps.

[kirmaster]

ehm i calcuated with 725 attack:
DPS wave:671
DPS ww:450
DPS terra:310
and since wave has only a cooldown of 4 s at lvl 9, i see no reason to not get 5961 dmg in 10,3 s(about all time you pvp in).
Wave does that 671 DPS for 3 seconds, while for example sw cannon does less for its near 3 seconds. Impact stab does more dps, agreed, but the skills closer to 3 s dont do that kind of DPS. AKA as much waves and low cast skills(under 2,5 at least) with a ww ender should do it.

[Alexi Laiho]

impact - wave - sw cannon - charge - r. blade - ww (pvp). can be shortened if i done over- dmg already.

Atm,my blader, lvl 150(max lvl in my country's sv now) has 27xx HP(with titan armor and boots of will+7).My def is 72x.
And if I duel with a War use combo like u.I dont know how ur stuffs,but 1100Hp is max dam(not crit!) u was dealed by most powerful War in my sv:Mithril GS+7 10% Sword Amp,full set Sword Amp Titan sloted and Mithril part,2 BoF+3,EoF+7.And If he use combo like u,he cant kill me after ww!
There are 2 combo duel Im thinking will be more useful:
1.WW lvl 20,Comp lvl 9 and if the cooldown is 4.0s like a guy said,the combo will be:
Comp=>charge=>r.blade=>impact stab(for boost)=>comp=>ww20
2.WW lvl 20,Comp lvl 20,Tera lvl 20,just for duel when u have nothing to do with ur War!The combo will be:
Comp=>ww=>charge=>..(u must imagine how much HP ur tera will deal,if it can overhit just cast tera,if i cant,cast r.blade=>impact=>tera)
And now caltulate the time of 2combos:
1:3.0+1.3+2.2+1.3+3.0=10.8s
2:3.0+4.3+1.3+(2.2+1.3)=8.3~11.8s

[XenodragoonE]

i used this one so far:

impact - r.blade - sw cannon - impact/ or charge - cascade - ww.

when it didnt crit i done a min. of 90% dmg on my opponents. if sw cannon crits at me, its already enough to shorten the combo and to kill him.

so now imagine how this will work with seismic wave, and btw your calculated times are not the true ones at some skills in combo, cuz in combo they are faster to cast as in the skill description. example: impact stab description: 1.5 cast -> in combo its less than 1 sec.
cascade - 2.9 cast -> in combo its like r. blade (2.2).

[Sheppy]

How about,

ww - wave - doom - r. blade - ww ?

[kirmaster]

Doom's DPS is too slow for that, and you wont be able to cast the second WW, since pvp lasts for LESS as 10 seconds.
The best opening you cna do right now is fadestep>wave(8 s knockdown)>combo(6 s)>(fill in combo)

[Cabal04]

for me

Wave > Charge > WW > SwCannon > and Something xD

[XenodragoonE]

ww should stay the finisher at pvp, its the most fast way to kill.
im so happy that wave is ranged, it will be a high advantage in cvc aswell, cannon and wave <3.

[Sheppy]

How about,

ww - wave - doom - r. blade - ww ?


Doom's DPS is too slow for that, and you wont be able to cast the second WW, since pvp lasts for LESS as 10 seconds.
The best opening you cna do right now is fadestep>wave(8 s knockdown)>combo(6 s)>(fill in combo)

But pve is good no? (Does most dmg from ww to ww cooldown and to not break combo, ww is stronger then wave so you want to cast ww as much and as fast as posible and fill the rest with most dmg and less casts as posible while ww cools down)
Its common that you WILL do 11+ combo so you cast 3 times WW and Wave+ in 1 combo run.

pvp yes, (newer looked into pvp but will when higher lvl maybe I allredy did right now XD) :smokin:


impact - wave - sw cannon - charge - r. blade - ww (pvp)
I gues that this is better for pvp since you want to deliver most dmg in 1 combo run and impact + cannon + charge does more dmg then Doom (But it takes more slots/points,.. I want buffs -____-)

[XenodragoonE]

true, thats why i dont understand why some players want to put wave in combo as often possible, when even ww is much stronger than wave. just lv wave up to 20 and use it 1 time in a combo run to 2nd ww in combi with another good dps skills. wave on 20 should pown. ww must be casted as fast as possible in pve. for pvp 1 ww as finisher.

[Sheppy]

About buffs: If I add atack skills for Pve and Pvp I should hawe 4 free slots to decide for bufs, Soul Blade replaces with Blade Aura.
(All A.Master skills are useless except the buff for the one who reached A.Master rank)
- Bears Vit
- Cats Recovery
- Feary? Shout / Morale Shout (Hp or attack better? Does it work on myself? I prefer Hp if work on myself together with Bears Vit O_O)
- Bloody Spirit / Instant Immunity (Pvp bufs? I read somewhere that Def in Pvp doesnt matter,.. dono why but if its true then Bloody Spirit together with Fary Shout is +425 atack!!! O_O While the Mage has Magic Amp. +26% skill!! O_O,.. FS has 2080 Def+ Bufed unable to move XD,.. I love it!)

As far as I see Shout is an Exclusive party skill and I dono if it works on yourself either in 1 man party or without allso.

If the Feary? Shout doesnt work in Pvp I would go with Morale Shout + Bears Vit + Instant Immunity.

Warrior skills:
http://forum.cabalonline.com/showthread.php?t=20886

[XenodragoonE]

i want the skills to test and try, now o.O! dont wanna see calculations this time, just want to check it real^^.

[Sheppy]

Ok so in theory,

1. Defensive buf:
Aura Barrier + Concetretion + Soul Blade + Bears Vit + Cats Recovery + Morale Shout + Instant Immunity = +58 Def / +103Hp (2 sec Rec.) / +1600Hp / +76 Atack / Bunch of +100% resist

2. Ofensive buf:
Aura Barrier + Concetretion + Soul Blade + Bears Vit + Cats Recovery + Feary? Shout + Bloody Spirit = +58 Def / +103Hp (2 sec Rec.) / +1130Hp / +501 Atack

If,.. they can all be casted together. (Duh,.. allways wanted to calc. out when I seen this and now I hawe) :woot_jump:

EDIT: I found a free slot with simply replacing Charge with Impact 2x Mwhahaha, no need to break my head over Def. Ofe. buff and can now hawe both more or less. :clap3:

[zolika]

Concentration is useless, forget that skill forever!!!

[kirmaster]

it is indeed, ditch it, you have combo!

[Sheppy]

I could replace it with Feary? Shout lvl19 which would be more usefull but dono how that skill works (onmyself).

How bad would I miss without Concentration in %? : P
Thats oround 400 Hit rate,..

With max Trans I am left with free 6 points and Impact18 R.Blade18 which would be nice to max out so not lack in points except that I hawe to reduce Concentration 20 to 19 duo on Point lack,
all other skills are then maxed or addjusted as they should be.

[kirmaster]

the buffs will stack in the end due to the over-100 class ups which allow you to stack more buffs, and increase their duration.
And 400 hit rate doesnt make you miss more significantly, and you can always use combo.
Just delete concentration all together and use the points on other skills.
Xeno, what do you use as a pve combo? since lvl 20 ww makes it kinda impossible to cast more as once during a combo.

[Cabal04]

Concentration is useless, forget that skill forever!!!

+1 to that :shades:
or if u want some light near your char's head :clap3:

[Cabal04]

and btw i saw a cabal VC video [ blader soloing VC ]

woo the comp skill rox and btw
in EpII [ owner of video said ] that Aura Barrier and Iron Skills actually STACK !!!
so i guess it'll be the same for Warrior

Source = http://youtube.com/watch?v=EaqDPo5fPww



FireCloud84 (1 day ago) The entire buff system is changed for the korean version. Buffs are now categorised into: weapon, spirit, equipment, general attack, body.

Iron skin strengthens body, and aura barrier strengthens equipments, thus they can stack.

[XenodragoonE]

the buffs will stack in the end due to the over-100 class ups which allow you to stack more buffs, and increase their duration.
And 400 hit rate doesnt make you miss more significantly, and you can always use combo.
Just delete concentration all together and use the points on other skills.
Xeno, what do you use as a pve combo? since lvl 20 ww makes it kinda impossible to cast more as once during a combo.

my relaxing pve combo, not the fastest combo of my 3 i use, but with the most knockdowns, and not so high sp usage.

r. blade - sw cannon - charge - cascade - ww (awesome dps tho, but its only my 2nd fastest one.)

i use only this combo atm. when i need dps at a dungeon again i will just use my best combo.

[XenodragoonE]

and btw i saw a cabal VC video [ blader soloing VC ]

Source = http://youtube.com/watch?v=EaqDPo5fPww

sry for dblpost, but give me that sh!t with a warrior pls o.O.

[kirmaster]

warriors get that, you only need to do the class ups. extra duration for buffs are also included.
WA ep2= FS 2?:P
And the thought of soul blade+ blade aura?^^

[Sheppy]

r. blade - sw cannon - charge - cascade - ww (awesome dps tho, but its only my 2nd fastest one.)

Thats tight,.. your tight,..since you say you can even do better I no doubt your even more tighter -_- Im not sure if I could do any faster. (Yes I can,.. mwahaha by 0,1 sec after ep2 :y: see at botom)

Thats 3764,8 dmg in 31,1 sec at 11 combo run
(If not focus on combo it will break so I cast WW when bar reach 1st slot and others little later to giwe some time for WW to cool Its amazing that I did 16 with such tight combo, dificult for a new player which is not used to combo,.. me,.. when I started playing Cabal XD)

I use/d
ww - c. break - doom - c. break
Is 4562,2 dmg in 38,8 sec at 11 combo run.

Now tell me,.. thats 797,4 dmg and 7,7 sec diference, with aprox. 1 hour killing/ combo with which combo would you get more exp? : P

100 combos x 11 comb. run:
Yours: 376,480 dmg in 3,110 sec (52min) / 7,240 dmg per 1 min

Mine: 456,220 dmg in 3,880 sec (64min) / 7,128 dmg per 1 min

Gratz,.. ,.. I suck,.. -___________- (Time to make my combo even more tight)
:woot_jump:

But after update

How about,

ww - wave - doom - r. blade - ww ?
Is 9 sec which yours is 9,1 sec, so my doom is not useless! :y:
(Or is it,.. :( naaaah)

Calc. ,... ,.. shalalala la la laa,
11 combo run = 6122,5 dmg in 39,9 sec

100 combos x 11 comb. run:
Is 612,250 dmg in 3,990 sec (66min) / 9,276 dmg per 1 min

Its calc. with skill lvl1,.. is even more dmg when lvled per min.
Sweeeet, got any better? :y:
Hard to belive but numbers dont lie.
(I misscalc. with Buffs/slots/points a little in previous posts,.. so,... when skills coming,.. im,.. horny!) :woot_jump:

[XenodragoonE]

Thats tight,.. your tight,..since you say you can even do better I no doubt your even more tighter -_- Im not sure if I could do any faster. (Yes I can,.. mwahaha by 0,1 sec after ep2 :y: see at botom)

Thats 3764,8 dmg in 28,4 sec at 11 combo run
(If not focus on combo it will break so I cast WW when bar reach 1st slot and others little later to giwe some time for WW to cool Its amazing that I did 16 with such tight combo, dificult for a new player which is not used to combo,.. me,.. when I started playing Cabal XD)

I use/d
ww - c. break - doom - c. break
Is 4562,2 dmg in 38,8 sec at 11 combo run.

Now tell me,.. thats 797,4 dmg and 10,4 sec diference, with aprox. 1 hour killing/ combo with which combo would you get more exp? : P

100 combos x 11 comb. run:
Yours: 376,480 dmg in 2,840 sec (47min) / 8,010 dmg per 1 min

Mine: 456,220 dmg in 3,880 sec (64min) / 7,128 dmg per 1 min

Gratz,.. ,.. I suck,.. -___________- (Time to make my combo even more tight)
:woot_jump:

But after update

Is 9 sec which yours is 9,1 sec, so my doom is not useless! :y:
(Or is it,.. :( naaaah)

Calc. ,... ,.. shalalala la la laa,
11 combo run = 6122,5 dmg in 39,9 sec

100 combos x 11 comb. run:
Is 612,250 dmg in 3,990 sec (66min) / 9,276 dmg per 1 min

Its calc. with skill lvl1,.. is even more dmg when lvled per min.
Sweeeet, got any better? :y:
(I misscalc. with Buffs/slots/points a little in previous posts,.. so,... when skills coming,.. im,.. horny!) :woot_jump:

yu re calculating too much. i practice it real. anyways after update my relax- knockdown combo will be:

r. blade 20 - sw cannon 20 - charge 20/ impact 20 - wave 20 - ww 9 (pve).

so its useless to calculate :P.

[Sheppy]

Your wrong but,.. your right with your combo tho,.. I suck once again.

11 combo run = 4947 dmg in 31,3 sec

100 combos x 11 comb. run:
Is 494,700 dmg in 3,130 sec (52min) / 9,513 dmg per 1 min
Compared with mine 9,276 dmg per 1 min

Which makes yours better,.. ,.. erm,.. Doom sucks,.. my Alz is doomed (untrain). :smokin:

Its wierd how numbers tell you a diferent story.
(I think the best combo is the lowest run in sec not realy matter what dmg/lower dmg but in less time?,.. gatling gun anyone,.. not sure tho,.. ,..calculate? later. : )

R. Blade - Sw. Cannon - Charge does more dmg then doom but it takes +0,2 sec to cast but still does more dmg over time,.. ,.. :stupido:

[XenodragoonE]

when i cast every skill on yellow/medium of my combo, sometimes ww even isnt cooled down after casted all other ones. so its fast to ww, but not the fastest dps. my best dps combo has impact included :).

[Sheppy]

I hawe corrected the timing for your 2nd best Combo on post #26 is marked with Bold.

I hawe pmed you your best combo and tell me if its correct.
You use the Combo bar itself to addjust Dps and so it doesnt break,... :smokin:
I use the same combos now as you do 1, 2(currently in use untill ep2) XD and,.. ,.. 3(ep2) which will be 1.
You a she or somthing? You appear atractive,.. not a part of my calc. but well,.. ,.. erm,.. anyways (joke)

Well here it is,

11 Combo run = 3593,8 dmg in 29,7 sec

100 combos x 11 comb. run:
Is 359,380 dmg in 2970 sec (49min) / 7,334 dmg per 1 min

Not much diference from your 2nd best combo which is 7,240 dmg per 1 min see post #26 which is corrected.
(Compleatly useless when ep2 comes with Wave which will giwe 9,513 dmg per 1 min)
Not to mention these calc. were done with lvl1 skills! :smokin:

Aint my calc. right or what? :shades:
(I would say this Topic worth a gold)
Cheers m8. :beer:

[kirmaster]

and everything lvl 20 matters, because of the additional 25% amp and mostly +50 add attack?

[Sheppy]

May I add somthing one last time? :smokin:

Use the combo you like most, the game should be about fun.
So dont use somthing you dont like and doesnt work, only coz its better.

When I started playing Cabal I saw Xeno´s combo, (after p2p)
I tryed it and failed miserable with wery high combo break rate.

After a while I got used to it and looked for more faster variants.
I use his/her combo not coz its good but coz I like it and enjoy it in casting skills fast.

Look at some people what they are doing with Tetris at high speed for example,.. imposible for me to do that but I am wery sure even I could get use to it but untill then Il use the speed that is the most fun and succesfull. :shades:

(I am sorry for the mass post in the Topic,
I am sorry If miss calc. (doubt it that I did) / offended / confused someone.)

[XenodragoonE]

my best dps combo indeed works only with low combolags... in dungeons and maps i have them rarely if i use impact at the right position in combo. but in pvp it lags often, but it doenst matter wich skill, it just lags/ or cb.

check my pm to yu sheppy, to see my real dps combo^^.
and pls dont post the combo here, it is very good, but a pain for players with many lags.

[7more]

Using:
ww(9)-charge(15)-cb(20)-rc(20)-rb(20)
or i might change to
ww(9)-charge(15)-cb(20)-rb(20)-rc(20)
for a laggy combo ;p

[Inf3ct]

ehm... I got no warrior, only a friend got one.

I have a question:

Which skill do you mean with "wave"? ^^

[7more]

The new completer one. :shades: