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Dihania
07-04-2008, 08:39
ok i just wana ask those luckers who passed this ****** proof - in how many tryes did u make it?
i failed yesterday my last 3 attempts in a total of 43
this is totaly bull ****

Trancid
07-04-2008, 10:10
Don't know if you mean 43 attempts at getting the right enchantment, or 43 attempts at creating an amp weapon from an enchant, or 43 times of attempting to get proof from the correct amp item. But if it is the first, well, I'm currently over 200 attempts already with getting the right enchantment in the slot for titanium katanas :)
Of those 200+ attempts, I've been not really lucky, and only got the right enchantment once. And you've guessed it, while attempting to craft that into an amp item, it failed :)

[Edit] Read yer signature, from that I conclude 43 attempts from Amp to Proof, ouch :( Good luck mate with getting there. Hopefully you will.

Kaliumcyanid
07-04-2008, 10:14
i have tried around 220 times lv2 upgrade (success and fail)
i got 3 times crit rate in blade
1st failed at amp
2nd failed at proof
3rd success XD

Dihania
07-04-2008, 10:35
Don't know if you mean 43 attempts at getting the right enchantment, or 43 attempts at creating an amp weapon from an enchant, or 43 times of attempting to get proof from the correct amp item. But if it is the first, well, I'm currently over 200 attempts already with getting the right enchantment in the slot for titanium katanas :)
Of those 200+ attempts, I've been not really lucky, and only got the right enchantment once. And you've guessed it, while attempting to craft that into an amp item, it failed :)

[Edit] Read yer signature, from that I conclude 43 attempts from Amp to Proof, ouch :( Good luck mate with getting there. Hopefully you will.

43 PROOF ATTEMPTS

43 blades of amp 2% sword amp +0 to be more accurate
tons of blades, shapes, force cores, disks, honour, time, stress, ****ups, and a shitload of curses. all wasted to achieve that misserable fail rate

Kaliumcyanid
07-04-2008, 10:41
43 Proof Attempts. ><

oh my god. i am very sorry to heard that.

now i have problem with st blade of proof. Because i find only few 2 slot st blade after ep2.

i dont know it is still good for you to keep on trying on proofs.

btw i failed 2 times titan blade of deathblow.

Dihania
07-04-2008, 11:13
43 Proof Attempts. ><

oh my god. i am very sorry to heard that.

now i have problem with st blade of proof. Because i find only few 2 slot st blade after ep2.

i dont know it is still good for you to keep on trying on proofs.

btw i failed 2 times titan blade of deathblow.

no it's not good.
especially to my budget
i was the fool that bought for tens of milions crit rate sloted blades just to make another try
each time

where others spent 1 bil to pass titanium i spent 10 bil just to see one more fail, and 1 more and so on.
i could have had by now the best gear available in game like godly perfect craft f or ****'s sake

Kaliumcyanid
07-04-2008, 11:23
i found i was just a litte lucky with that proof.

i didnt think that i past the proof so quickly.

btw i tried them after ep2

Guajira
07-04-2008, 12:08
tit blade crit rate up, is that a boss drop or using fch upgrade.
If its the latter then its just plain insane

Dihania
07-04-2008, 12:25
2 force cores at alchemist and a "large potion of luck"

Kaliumcyanid
07-04-2008, 14:13
5% crit rate in blade/katana can be dropped from monster but rare

ogdemster
08-04-2008, 09:54
ur lucky guys finally successed. i try to attemp everyday about 3 months funny thing still i try upgrade only. not try amp or prof löl. (daily 10kk~ for crafting, 3x30x10 = ? :/ . where the nab hint ?

emodan
08-04-2008, 10:44
i wonder this too i craft amp and get fail or wrong amp not even got to proof making attempts yet DAMN U 2% SWORD AMP DAMN U TO HELL
for now i shall work on better items crafting is fudged anyway due to slotted amp and such being better than crafted by alot u see dropped crafted mith better than anything anyone could possibly craft what a cruel system

infoauto
08-04-2008, 11:16
i craft tit.katanas and am at 60%

And you guys allready spook with amp failed and proof failed!!!!

Titanium is the hardest craft lvl!

I hate this,never can get the katanas +0 one slot/never get the right enchant and so on...

Crafting sucks,yet they charge us honour for craft:((ridiculos)

Guajira
08-04-2008, 11:18
at shadowtitanium level, u need a dbl slotted blade/katana in first slot 5% crit rate
thats more insane

Zoom
08-04-2008, 11:47
i craft tit.katanas and am at 60%

And you guys allready spook with amp failed and proof failed!!!!

Titanium is the hardest craft lvl!

I hate this,never can get the katanas +0 one slot/never get the right enchant and so on...

Crafting sucks,yet they charge us honour for craft:((ridiculos)

That's wrong.


at shadowtitanium level, u need a dbl slotted blade/katana in first slot 5% crit rate
thats more insane

Ye unlike Armor crafting, Weapons crafting gets harder along the way. When you pass titanium and due to the excessive rarity of 2slots Shadowtitanium weapons dropping lately it is harder and when you pass to osmium you also need to buy the Rated osm kata/blade/gs/daika 2 slots with rate in first slot and thats pretty expensive.

As for the topic, i passed titanium step on both gs & blade, and passed on first try on gs ( first amp, first proof ), 3 or 4 amp on blades ( 2 failed, 1 1% sword amp, and 1 2% sword amp which succeeded proof ).

However on 100+ ST blade 2 slots i only succeeded to pull rate in the first slot 3 times ( got 3% sword amp, 4% sword amp ( failed proof :) ), fail ) and i was given a rated blade and got 3% sword amp :P.

Side note on 22+ 2 slots ST GS still none got rate in =P so couldn't try Proof yet =P.
But ye on katana I am at 100% redosmi, i m the first and the highest weapon crafter ( on Mars ) and that is my pride ;o, anyway you can see you mustn't give up, if someone or several could do it, it means YOU can too period! Don't give up and good luck.

And to top if off passing to mithril on weapons is close to impossible since you need 2 slots redosmi with 1st slot rated :) those are nearly unexisting ( I would say there are 3 max 2 slots redosmi katanas on each server ( Mars & Mercury ) but they probably got wasted with crit damage in both slots since decades and probably +7ed already ... )

Dihania
08-04-2008, 12:09
do you think that those 43 proof attempts that i failed came like that "poff" blade + 2 force cores and they all go to crit rate then right amp right sheit?
i'm talking about bilions invested in mats
it was like 1 on 40 blades that i got the 5% crit rate in slot and it was like 1 on 4~5 crit rated blades that i got the right amp
this is totally bullshit and not worth it if u dun have that damn luck.

u Zoom are not better than me or any other crafter that tryed his **** off to pass this ****** proof
u are only lucky and so the other luckers that passed their proof in first try

this shouldn't be a ****ing casino where if u are lucky u get the jack

CRAFTING does not repay it's investments
they never will
as long as perfect crafted 2 sloted shits still drops

i hope that if any GM see this post i'll get an answer on how many fails would i encounter in the future?

Kaliumcyanid
08-04-2008, 12:09
osm blade 2 slot with crit rate can be dropped. i have seen one +3 on jupter, but man can try to upgrade till +0, if man has luck maybe unluck, it will be +7 at the end XDD

i am trying now to pass through st blade of proof -.-

mupp3t
08-04-2008, 12:20
I passed the titanium blade proof in ep1 it took hundreds of lvl2 enchant attempts. If I remember correctly 3 amp crafts which led to 2 proof trys.

A big thanks goes to Dustbit3 who got me the rate blade that succeeded to proof.

It only took a few days to get 100% shadowtitanium and since then I've had, I think, 2 amp crafts. 1 of which gave 5% amp and the other an attempt at the proof. Unfortunately this failed and dbl slot blades have become hard to come by.

Hopefully I'll get some luck soon and get to osmium.

Zoom
09-04-2008, 11:07
u Zoom are not better than me or any other crafter that tryed his **** off to pass this ****** proof


Who said I was superior to u O.o? I was cheering u up thats all ... And no need to be bitter you are not the only one to have complained, to complain or who will complain, some people like this difficulty some people despair about this, in the end, no one care and you are left with a bitter taste after each failing and in the end either you give up either you keep trying :).



u are only lucky and so the other luckers that passed their proof in first try

this shouldn't be a ****ing casino where if u are lucky u get the jack


That is what the messed up crafting system is about, not about your crafting experience or your masterpieces, all luck to find the right time to press the craft button and having success out :) when the game enables it in those moment. Can be anytime you can't find out... You can just hope you're good to go.
Luck hmm?? Do u know i stood at ST katana for 8 months ? Then i passed all of a sudden to redosmi in 5 days.... But ye you complain you arrive here and u think the world revolves around u.
Dude if you wanna talk about luck then tell me why all my battle craft ( all parts ) is still stuck at 100% for hmm 1 year + ? Because I just give up after spending billions like you. I still need some gear / have other priorities and beside i have other people crafting in my guild those parts so in the end i don't care, the job is done one way or another.



CRAFTING does not repay it's investments
they never will
as long as perfect crafted 2 sloted shits still drops

i hope that if any GM see this post i'll get an answer on how many fails would i encounter in the future?

It does pay back but then again you need to get lucky with the QUALITY and lucky NOT TO FAIL and you need to choose your prices fitting the investment and allowing re-investment which is doable when you are high on crafting and have quite a monopole on the market or know what sells and what not etc...

As for the fame of crafting and as some people mentioned here, there is NO REASON to get to mithril weapon Crafted because no matter what the crafter does, there will never be a mithril weapon Crafted better than a Mithril Weapon dropped from MF with the correct options aka sword/magic amp in slot and a max mod on craft ( min dmg %, atk, sword / magic amp, etc...). THAT IS WHAT SHOULD BE ALTERED IMHO because this makes no sense.

Gm caring to answer about how many fails you will get ? AS IF they had a clue about that, I told you if u find the right moment you will succeed if you re in the low success moment you will fail no matter what. And GM won't tell you about that obviously... where would be the challenge otherwise ?
Believe me on that, enough people passed or achieved quite some high ranks in crafting since the start of Europe Cabal no matter what the difficulties were, there is absolutely no reasons to change it due to the results observed. And if you are not happy with it, get your billions together and wait for a lucky seller of mithril weapon crafted gotten in MF and buy it. Less headache, less stress, less bitterness = > safe way of getting things and at that top things since drops >= craft.

Dihania
09-04-2008, 15:02
And if you are not happy with it, get your billions together and wait for a lucky seller of mithril weapon crafted gotten in MF and buy it. Less headache, less stress, less bitterness = > safe way of getting things and at that top things since drops >= craft.

that's exactly what i'm gonna do

didn't mean to be rude or something but i was so pissed...

Kaliumcyanid
09-04-2008, 15:11
i am playing now cabal only for crafting.

i am bored of grinding in mf, maybe i will have luck again to get another crafted Mithril stuff.

what else?

i am doing now eod lid rs or grinding in fgr for 2 slot st Blade

nxxkie
10-04-2008, 11:43
i did like 10 tries upgrades lvl2 ... got the crit rate then i passed my tita proof at the first try ^O^ . Should i consider myself lucky ? xD