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Abysion
09-05-2008, 11:59
Hi,

What buff skills should I get and which one should I skip?

Get all with the long durations?

And whats the max crit rate on a crafted red osmium gs?

xxShnizzlaxx
09-05-2008, 13:04
first of all get iron aura barrier and soul blade
skip concentration and then buy down breaker, instant, cats and the 2 shouts and bloody spirit, bears is not so important
just buy what you are able to buy (since you're transcender at 56 i bet you're not quite rich, and also don't forget to buy your upgrades ;) )
i guess the max crit dmg in a red osm gs would be 82%, 32% craft, dbl slot with dmg, extended, 3rd slot dmg (2%)
but don't bother such an item doesn't exist, better get a dbl slot shadowtit with 40% dmg in slots and then save your money until you are able to buy a crafted osm, thats how i would do it :D

:edited it to proper english :D :

Abysion
09-05-2008, 13:09
first of all get iron aura barrier and soul blade
skip concentration and then buy down breaker, instant, cats and the 2 shouts and bloody spirit, bears is not so important
just buy what you are able to buy (since you're transcender at 56 i bet you're not quite rich, and also don't forget to buy your upgrades ;) )
i guess the max crit dmg in a red osm gs would be 82%, 32% craft, dbl slot with dmg, extended, 3rd slot dmg (2%)
but don't bother such an item doesn't exist, better get a dbl slot shadowtit with 40% dmg in slots and then save your money until you are able to buy a crafted osm, thats how i would do it :D

:edited it to proper english :D :

Well I am rich and I meant rate not dmg :P

I got Aura Barrier should I also get Iron Barrier or what?

Are those short buff skills realy useful?

kirmaster
09-05-2008, 14:04
iron skin and arua barrier stack.
and 16% rate is max on GS by craft.

Abysion
09-05-2008, 14:06
iron skin and arua barrier stack.
and 16% rate is max on GS by craft.

Alright thanks and it worth to get both skills?

What about blade aura or blade force? Do they stack up with Soul Blade?

pipoix
09-05-2008, 14:57
10% rate is max Lol.You must buy iron skin and aura barrier, they stack and it's very helpful cuz it gives u def and Hps, Blades buffs don't stack so just take the soul blade one ;)

xxShnizzlaxx
09-05-2008, 15:39
10% rate is max Lol.

definatley not lol

16% rate craft is max and you could get 10% rate in a slot (or if you are really lucky even in 2 slots) and then extend it, would be a great sword with 40% rate if my calculations are right

Abysion
09-05-2008, 16:20
I should also buy the HP Buff skill? The party buff which last long? And skipp all other buff skills eh?

7more
09-05-2008, 16:36
Don't buy bears vitality = useless

Abysion
09-05-2008, 16:39
So I should max


Down Breaker
Cats Recovery
Iron Skin
Aura Barrier
Soul Blade
Bloody Spirit?


Also is Force Kick usefull?

Thanks for the help all!


EDIT::

Not Moral Shout since you MUST have a party for it

gemeosfox
09-05-2008, 16:50
Abysion u are premiun? lol

Robciante
09-05-2008, 16:56
bears is not so important



OMFG...

Bears Vitality is the secret weapon of WA,lol :laugh1:

+1000hp on lv20...U can tank boss easily with 4000+hp :punish:

not mension use it on pvp ^^

Abysion
09-05-2008, 17:21
Abysion u are premiun? lol

Yes I am why you ask?

kirmaster
10-05-2008, 07:03
So I should max


Down Breaker
Cats Recovery
Iron Skin
Aura Barrier
Soul Blade
Bloody Spirit?


Also is Force Kick usefull?

Thanks for the help all!


EDIT::

Not Moral Shout since you MUST have a party for it

soutlion for morale: party newb, buff you both, done. Since morale last rly rly long anyways.
@shinzlaxx: well, you can have more, but fo rthat you need the best luck ever:
perfect rate craft(16%) rate in first slot(10%)(4% chance to get rate with FC's) rate in second(10%) extend(+5%) rate in third slot (10%) makes 51% rate, kinda useless since with base its 56% and aop+3/+7 has only 4% max crit rate. PLus, the chance getting it is :
1/200*4/100*4/100*4/100=0,00000032, less chance as a bike drop from a boss.

7more
10-05-2008, 12:42
OMFG...

Bears Vitality is the secret weapon of WA,lol :laugh1:

+1000hp on lv20...U can tank boss easily with 4000+hp :punish:

not mension use it on pvp ^^

You must be mad, why I'd need 1k more hp on a boss that hits me max for 1.8k while I have 4k hp normal? I rather use Cat's recovery, it recovers me 3750 hp in 75 sec, but then I lose FA hp buff which is long duration.

kirmaster
10-05-2008, 14:05
pvp is about bear's only use. Dont get it till you have the others.

Abysion
10-05-2008, 16:25
What about the instant immobility skill and 2 shouts?

Should I choose between Bears and Cats or get both?

Bloody Spirit max right?:p

7more
10-05-2008, 18:24
Get cats no real use of Bears

kirmaster
10-05-2008, 19:14
immunity is kinda decen tin pvp to not ge t hit out of combo, a nd hte shouts are useful ( especially if you have a guild/regular xp party)

XenodragoonE
10-05-2008, 21:07
bears vital just sux in pve. after using it (you will lose 1 defense buff) you still get the same amount of dmg because about 50 def less. theres no real difference after using it in pve. BUT in cvc its very helpful.

but dont take morale shout, concentration... and downbraker... dunno, i deleted it for the simple fact that i already knockdown at every skill without it...

Abysion
10-05-2008, 22:16
Well I got enough skill points, I will just max them all!

Thanks for help ;)

kirmaster
11-05-2008, 07:29
IMHO morale is useful enough to buy, but dont buy concentration, and downbreaker really works against mobs with a bit resistance( LS2 ogres etc.)

zwareguy
14-05-2008, 21:34
IMHO morale is useful enough to buy, but dont buy concentration, and downbreaker really works against mobs with a bit resistance( LS2 ogres etc.)

yes true do it

Izuall
15-05-2008, 07:59
Agree down breaker is really usefull in both pvp&pve....

xSiCKx
15-05-2008, 09:06
DownBreaker only on WAR channel and on war maps vs opposite nation, for some reason I don't feel any difference on mobs so I kinda never use it in PVM.
And when in party you can use some other, better buff from FA or WI.

Izuall
16-05-2008, 14:06
DownBreaker only on WAR channel and on war maps vs opposite nation, for some reason I don't feel any difference on mobs so I kinda never use it in PVM.
And when in party you can use some other, better buff from FA or WI.
i noticed that if i use it ,the mobs wont hit so offten...like a small stun effect......

macequindoo
20-05-2008, 18:55
soul bladeeeeeee

JohnnyBBade
25-06-2008, 09:14
Iron skin
Aura barrier
Morale shout
Soul Blade
Instant immunity
bears
cats

DeM3nT
25-06-2008, 09:41
Iron skin - def & hp (duration buff)
Aura barrier - def & hp (duration buff)
Morale shout - hp (duration buff)
Soul Blade - atk (duration buff)
Concentration - atk rate ( when u don't have party to use moral shout ; it gives u more chance to hit crt , duration buff)
Instant immunity - 100% resis
Bears Vitality - hp
Cats Regen - regen hp
Fury Shout - atk & magic

OYARS
25-06-2008, 10:08
I have boath them all ... Well exept instant imunity and some party buffs.

There are many difirent situations.

But mostly i use
Iron skin
Aura barrier
Morale shout - in a party
Soul Blade
Down Breaker
Concentration

And i play with ease.

kirmaster
25-06-2008, 10:55
didnt bother waste a spot on concentration, the 10% res spell is better.
ironskin
aura barrier
morale
soul blade
downbreaker
bears
cats
fury
bloody
immunity

CoNsuRaL
26-06-2008, 10:54
Iron Skin
Aura barrier
Morale shout
Soul blade
Downbreaker
Bears vitalty
cats recovery

Is this the list?

Fatal6
26-06-2008, 12:53
get all buffs except concentration, blade force and blade aura

XenodragoonE
26-06-2008, 13:26
most important secret weapon: bloody spirit + cats rec. + panic cry!

concentration is very effective in ft. especially for chakris and 1. boss.
in combination with bm2+ aura for sure. but thats all...

Kintaro
27-06-2008, 20:29
Me and a friend I just met today did some tests (PvP tests).
(I don't want to mention his ingame name for "security" and privacy reasons...)

Ok, this is the outcome of our tests.
The best buff combination to use in PvP was:
Aura + soul + down + conc + cats + bloody + instant + panic.

In all our tests, bears seemed to be useless.
But I think there's some use for bears, because it's a trans buff and I belief devs wouldn't implement the "most" useless skill as a trans skill...

ragnarokpt
28-06-2008, 17:22
True. Morale shout always helps in endurance in cvc. And fury shout helps alot aswell. Everytime i use it in cvc, i go from hiting 110 in each hit in the WW to 150 each. Really helps.

Downbreaker doesnt looks much usefull tbh, but meh, i like having a load of buffs :P
Concentration, yep, pure BS....
Bloody spirit, its a skill to use at your own risk. It drains your deffence from 700 to 200, but the attack is nice, if you beat some1 fast.
Bear's vitality is nice to fool ppl :D but doesnt helps much i think, only to have some endurance.

TopCat10k
28-06-2008, 22:20
what on earth were you teaching this boy? :rofl1:
1)atk rate doesn't give you a bigger chance to crit
2)140->cats+bear stack...it's best that you have them both
3)all buffs/debuff except concentration,blade force and blade aura.

CoNsuRaL
04-07-2008, 19:08
Bears and cats cannot stack...

ZealeX
05-07-2008, 14:16
Actually they can, later on.

Kintaro
05-07-2008, 15:29
Was it at rank 13 that you could use 2 similar skills or at rank 16?
And I guess only after rank 13 you're able to use 6 buffs at a time?

kirmaster
05-07-2008, 16:44
rank 15 for 2 of same type.

CoNsuRaL
06-07-2008, 12:10
140 level omg o.o
Is panic cry useful?

raoulito
01-10-2008, 23:25
get rid of concentration, blade force and blade aura. they happen to be just for starters. you can keep the rest. resist intension is a universal magic buff btw. but hey who needs it when you got immunity? lol

cagi94
30-10-2008, 21:02
u are maxed trancs and dont know what buffs to get...................... LLLLLLOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL

FeitZ
05-11-2008, 15:00
8 l3uffs [Rank 15] :

Aura Barrier
Soul Blade
Down Breaker
Cat's Recovery
Bear's Vitality
Bloody Spirit
Morale Shout
Fury Shout