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Quadraxis
06-06-2007, 15:50
Hello,

Let's discuss about the good and bad things about warrior's

Like PvP abilities
PvE
Etc. xD

Cuz I am thinking to start over and begin a warrior since a force shielder doesn't have really much attack :x

EDIT:

Woot when I typ PvP, warrior and shielder you get extra info of it when you hold your mouse on it xD

Euroforce
06-06-2007, 15:52
pvp:
warrior strong skills but slow skills, depends on right combo to deal good dps

Ricco
06-06-2007, 16:53
I was a Force Shielder too but that's boring. I'm starting a warrior as soon as the servers are open for us. Warriors can tank and deal high damage, their armor looks cool too.


○ Ricco.

Dragonhand
06-06-2007, 20:36
I like speed moving speed casting speed, Warriors are not my tipe :p

XenodragoonE
06-06-2007, 21:48
i have a very fast skills combination at warrior. sure mostly skills and the greatest skills are slow but if you combine slow skills with fast skills right and you are tuning in the right way, you can do very much dmg in fast time.

but wa still cant beat wizzard. they re too overpowned:P.

so i would say:
- pvp: 2nd best, wizzards do faster dmg than warrior.
- cvc: hard to say still. wizzards and warriors do much dmg there.
- dungeon: perfect. good dmg, good defense. but slower than wizzard.
- pve: great area- attack skills. most dmg. but again slow (but depends all on how is your built of your warrior).

generally my opinion is that every class can be good at every part of these. this only descripes the standard- build of the classes.

Nephelim
08-06-2007, 17:13
trapez RULES!

XenodragoonE
09-06-2007, 10:34
yes trapez an the think do have the best equip atm. specially in dungeons they arent beatable. still not...:P. i would not get the same equip so fast and dont want to because i take an other way. i earlier sayed im pure attack warrior, now i mix it with pure hp- stats. you will wonder how fast i will get close to 3000 hp soon (without bm or force echanter:P). hp+arent bad in dungeons too. looking forward to see how it will influence it by having 3000+ hp some day.

Little_B
09-06-2007, 15:37
yes trapez an the think do have the best equip atm. specially in dungeons they arent beatable. still not...:P. i would not get the same equip so fast and dont want to because i take an other way. i earlier sayed im pure attack warrior, now i mix it with pure hp- stats. you will wonder how fast i will get close to 3000 hp soon (without bm or force echanter:P). hp+arent bad in dungeons too. looking forward to see how it will influence it by having 3000+ hp some day.

hp, is cool to have like 3 k but the damage u take is still the same, and pots heal the same, soo, u'll die probably 1 hit l8r(u cant pot that much hp)... warrior build, the only good one is full str, the one with dex build, is bs...

game is not that simple m8...perfect wa is the one that can find the perfect balance between crit dmg, crit rate, and sword amp...we should not talk bout attck,or hp cuz we would have to much to talk...


don't forget that WA is a DD....

XenodragoonE
09-06-2007, 17:46
taken damage isnt the same. and with new gear wich improves my hp there is more defense too automatically. most players have 2300 hp. im close to 2700 (without eox+7 and only 1 parts of will) atm. theres a nice difference wich i checked out already in dungeons. in addition my defense is close to 800.

Little_B
09-06-2007, 19:10
taken damage isnt the same. and with new gear wich improves my hp there is more defense too automatically. most players have 2300 hp. im close to 2700 (without eox+7 and only 1 parts of will) atm. theres a nice difference wich i checked out already in dungeons. in addition my defense is close to 800.

crafted parts of will are...ok
crafted parts of amp... wohooooo <3 <3 <3

i would amp my nails if i could

XenodragoonE
10-06-2007, 06:29
sword skill amp+ will be enchanted in my weapon wooooot!

Quadraxis
10-06-2007, 06:53
sword skill amp+ will be enchanted in my weapon wooooot!

If you craft Mythril Armor of Amp; does it have a slot then?

Kuno
10-06-2007, 06:59
crafted items don't have slots

Jimbu
10-06-2007, 09:08
Crafted mithril can have slots but whether you find it as a drop or craft it getting amp is absolute luck

XenodragoonE
10-06-2007, 11:03
you can craft an item(Mithril Cube, so far i know.) to slot your weapon or armor.

Quadraxis
10-06-2007, 11:04
you can craft an item(Mithril Cube, so far i know.) to slot your weapon or armor.

You can use this 4 times to get 4 slots?!

XenodragoonE
10-06-2007, 11:06
only 1 time guess. dont know if its binded then but it cant because then you wouldnt be able to enchant it lol.

Nicolai
10-06-2007, 20:58
crafted items don't have slots

öhm.... every crafted item (except rings/amu) can have a slot; all you need
is a faked dice :) (means: you need a lot of luck)

Ghostwalker
10-06-2007, 22:07
Sorry to disapoint you xeno, but out of a mythril cube comes the whole item with one slot alredy enhanted. You can throw your dai away it is useless it will only get a slot with an extender and you should not waste one on it :p. And btw. Why do you have only 800 def as warrior? I have 818 def in my eof+7.

Absinthe
10-06-2007, 22:28
832 with EoG +6 and without bike :damnmate:

Noah
10-06-2007, 22:32
873 with Eof
913 with Eog:)

Little_B
10-06-2007, 23:31
873 with Eof
913 with Eog:)

damn u mister! :damnmate:

XenodragoonE
11-06-2007, 02:58
Sorry to disapoint you xeno, but out of a mythril cube comes the whole item with one slot alredy enhanted. You can throw your dai away it is useless it will only get a slot with an extender and you should not waste one on it :p. And btw. Why do you have only 800 def as warrior? I have 818 def in my eof+7.

why should i throw it away:P. keep it so long till i crafted mithril cube.
and my defense is only 800+ because i still wear osm. with sg set +5 i had 850+ or so. but wasnt really better as my hp+eq. now. im working on it to make me a second armorset as SG slot.

Noah
11-06-2007, 09:37
As you noticed Xeno i am using osmium also

suF
11-06-2007, 13:12
ye but u got loads of parts +7 :P

bt yeah man, even in my osmium, as a bldaer, in ma eof, i hav around 820/830 def...wts goin on? :P

Quadraxis
11-06-2007, 13:15
Is nobody using mythril armors?o.O

And why not?

Little_B
11-06-2007, 13:55
Is nobody using mythril armors?o.O

And why not?

i think i explained u on an other thread what is the deal with mithril even now...
not even shine or mystic is a better choice than osm because of the 1 slot thingy...

i'm going for shine cuz i will have all my parts +7 soon...

but if i'd have crafted osm on mars i's s h i t on shineguard...

Quadraxis
11-06-2007, 14:52
i think i explained u on an other thread what is the deal with mithril even now...
not even shine or mystic is a better choice than osm because of the 1 slot thingy...

i'm going for shine cuz i will have all my parts +7 soon...

but if i'd have crafted osm on mars i's s h i t on shineguard...

Don't you think this will change in the feature will people are able to craft mythril?

And if people still really like Osmium Armors then a Heavy Armor Blader is still a good choice right?

Little_B
11-06-2007, 16:05
Don't you think this will change in the feature will people are able to craft mythril?

And if people still really like Osmium Armors then a Heavy Armor Blader is still a good choice right?

m8..the game by it's nature, let's say evolves slowly...osm dbl slot exists and can be farmed easely for ages tho, i still donno someone with full set of amp let's say...
eventually they will craft Mithril (maybe even shine rofl)...

again u should play , so that u have a good opinion!

Quadraxis
11-06-2007, 16:23
m8..the game by it's nature, let's say evolves slowly...osm dbl slot exists and can be farmed easely for ages tho, i still donno someone with full set of amp let's say...
eventually they will craft Mithril (maybe even shine rofl)...

again u should play , so that u have a good opinion!

All right :)

But one question, mythril is better the shine but people can craft mythril before shine cuz you say: maybe even shine :p

Little_B
11-06-2007, 16:46
sarcasm!
if u played the game u would have uderstood that i meant shine CRAFTED wich on mars doesn't exist and Mithril crafted absolutely noone has...

u are confusing the way mithrill can be obtained wich is true, by crafting but not the crafting u do on osm lets say... u gather the parts(astral cores blue mithril ,shpes lv 4,etc) and boom!!! mithril...or the osm u use ur profesional craft to enchant an item with another bonus (other then the one in the slot) if u are able to do so (means u passed the proof from titanium craft to osm)

Quadraxis
11-06-2007, 16:58
sarcasm!
if u played the game u would have uderstood that i meant shine CRAFTED wich on mars doesn't exist and Mithril crafted absolutely noone has...

u are confusing the way mithrill can be obtained wich is true, by crafting but not the crafting u do on osm lets say... u gather the parts(astral cores blue mithril ,shpes lv 4,etc) and boom!!! mithril...or the osm u use ur profesional craft to enchant an item with another bonus (other then the one in the slot) if u are able to do so (means u passed the proof from titanium craft to osm)

Ok cuz I din't played the game when Mythril was implanted :x

XenodragoonE
11-06-2007, 19:15
ye but u got loads of parts +7 :P

bt yeah man, even in my osmium, as a bldaer, in ma eof, i hav around 820/830 def...wts goin on? :P

dunno... tell me:P. i have +6 osm set... only my suit is +3 (so i lose 15 defense, and suit of will is hell- difficult to upgrade.) my hp- equip gives me add. defense too and with eof+6 i have about 800.
trap has all parts +7 but not boots. if boots already too then he has a bonus of 4x12 defense. lets say 850 then(without eog+7). he perhaps has other items for increasing his def so this is only the stat with osm+7.

TheThink
13-06-2007, 09:10
I don't have bike, nor earring of guard+4 nor cape+7, BUT :

with 2 ring of luck+2, amulet of pain+4, eof+6 >> 869def, 30%crit rate, 20%crit dmg, 11%amp
with 2ring of fighter+8, amulet of guard+8, eog+6 >> 929def, 10%crit rate, 15%crit dmg, 8%amp

and if I borrow few stuff, i can get 973def, and if you want to go further, i still have my glove and boot which are +6, and my mithril suit is +4..., so I let you imagine how much i can hit :)

Noah
13-06-2007, 09:43
Lol, so xeno you have o rethink your build :)

Quadraxis
13-06-2007, 12:27
I don't have bike, nor earring of guard+4 nor cape+7, BUT :

with 2 ring of luck+2, amulet of pain+4, eof+6 >> 869def, 30%crit rate, 20%crit dmg, 11%amp
with 2ring of fighter+8, amulet of guard+8, eog+6 >> 929def, 10%crit rate, 15%crit dmg, 8%amp

and if I borrow few stuff, i can get 973def, and if you want to go further, i still have my glove and boot which are +6, and my mithril suit is +4..., so I let you imagine how much i can hit :)

You suggest the first set, with the ring of lucks etc over the RoF+8? For a Warrior?

TheThink
13-06-2007, 14:00
as my warrior is a crit build, yes... i use the rof/eog/aog only when i need a huge def to tank, like strong boss when you don't have a healer in party...

i deal like 1.5* to 2* more dmg in crit build than with rof etc...

Quadraxis
13-06-2007, 14:04
as my warrior is a crit build, yes... i use the rof/eog/aog only when i need a huge def to tank, like strong boss when you don't have a healer in party...

i deal like 1.5* to 2* more dmg in crit build than with rof etc...

Nice :)

Thank you, Old Wise Man :ghost:

XenodragoonE
13-06-2007, 17:59
Lol, so xeno you have o rethink your build :)

na i dont think its my built wich is decreasing the defense. i still wear osmium like you but YOU have all parts +7;). and i know you have a second armorset of sg wich perhaps has a bit more defense. i got all parts +6 only my nice craftet suit dont want to become+6:>.<. so with all osm parts +6 i would again have 850+ defense plus with my second equip (rings, amulets.). i have lower def atm but high hp. later i can increase my defense too without any hp- decrease.

Noah
13-06-2007, 19:04
Remains to be seen what build is better but im 99.9% sure mine is. At same lvl with the same items you will have with about 15-20 attack more then me about 100 more hp. But ill have about 50% crit dmg and 39% rate. So, we will see ...

Nicolai
13-06-2007, 20:01
guess its time that you all take some nice pictures of your pen!s, load them
up and then we ll see who has the biggest one. :D

Noah
13-06-2007, 20:06
Ha ha ha, Vagnard is back:hahaha:

Little_B
13-06-2007, 22:34
I don't have bike, nor earring of guard+4 nor cape+7, BUT :

with 2 ring of luck+2, amulet of pain+4, eof+6 >> 869def, 30%crit rate, 20%crit dmg, 11%amp
with 2ring of fighter+8, amulet of guard+8, eog+6 >> 929def, 10%crit rate, 15%crit dmg, 8%amp

and if I borrow few stuff, i can get 973def, and if you want to go further, i still have my glove and boot which are +6, and my mithril suit is +4..., so I let you imagine how much i can hit :)

guud thinking me.think :P

Kintaro
14-06-2007, 12:14
I'm a WARRIOR TOOO !!!!

why i shose a warrior:

-he's a BEAST like me

-his skills look POWERFULL (and they are powerfull)

-AWSOME armor

-AWSOME BM2 :p

-Good in PvP (but Force Blader and Archer were the BEST in PvP, don't know who's the best now)

-GIANT SWORD !!! grrrr :rock:



NOTE: becaus he's a warrior (Meele-Combat), most ppl don't train their MAGIC skills in the beginning. A BIG Mistake!!! caus later from lvl 60 (i blief) you get lot of BOSS Dungeon quests, and it's REALLY HARD to do them without MAGIC skills !!!! REALLY HARD !!!! even if you're a warrior the boss does like 50% damage with 1 hit (never use meele combat) well if you have weak magic skills, it'll take a long time to kill the BOSS, but your time is LIMITED !!!

so train your MAGIC skills tooooo ;)

Quadraxis
14-06-2007, 12:35
I'm a WARRIOR TOOO !!!!

why i shose a warrior:

-he's a BEAST like me

-his skills look POWERFULL (and they are powerfull)

-AWSOME armor

-AWSOME BM2 :p

-Good in PvP (but Force Blader and Archer were the BEST in PvP, don't know who's the best now)

-GIANT SWORD !!! grrrr :rock:



NOTE: becaus he's a warrior (Meele-Combat), most ppl don't train their MAGIC skills in the beginning. A BIG Mistake!!! caus later from lvl 60 (i blief) you get lot of BOSS Dungeon quests, and it's REALLY HARD to do them without MAGIC skills !!!! REALLY HARD !!!! even if you're a warrior the boss does like 50% damage with 1 hit (never use meele combat) well if you have weak magic skills, it'll take a long time to kill the BOSS, but your time is LIMITED !!!

so train your MAGIC skills tooooo ;)

It isn't; use sword cannon.

And you could also kill the boss with just novice skills

Kintaro
14-06-2007, 16:00
It isn't; use sword cannon.

And you could also kill the boss with just novice skills



haha lol Multi Cannon is way to far bro ;)

most lvl 60 players don't have it yet (well if they don't dummy ofcours), so training MAGIC skills is faster then reaching Master (or was it A.Expert 40?? don't remmember, didn't played since 1st OB)

i myself was lvl 67 (didn't reached 80, caus i was to bussy with crafting rings. i made in total 4 EXP RINGS LVL 105 :rock: !!!! during OB i was 2nd best ring crafter, 1st was Zang (or somthing ,damn don't remember his name)

Little_B
14-06-2007, 16:28
I'm a WARRIOR TOOO !!!!

why i shose a warrior:

-he's a BEAST like me

-his skills look POWERFULL (and they are powerfull)

-AWSOME armor

-AWSOME BM2 :p

-Good in PvP (but Force Blader and Archer were the BEST in PvP, don't know who's the best now)

-GIANT SWORD !!! grrrr :rock:



NOTE: becaus he's a warrior (Meele-Combat), most ppl don't train their MAGIC skills in the beginning. A BIG Mistake!!! caus later from lvl 60 (i blief) you get lot of BOSS Dungeon quests, and it's REALLY HARD to do them without MAGIC skills !!!! REALLY HARD !!!! even if you're a warrior the boss does like 50% damage with 1 hit (never use meele combat) well if you have weak magic skills, it'll take a long time to kill the BOSS, but your time is LIMITED !!!

so train your MAGIC skills tooooo ;)

no diss man, but where were u living untill now? under a rock? :heeeelllllooooo:

1.BM2 is probably the worst BM of all classes
2.FB is not good in pvp...(FA is OP)
3.WA using magic skills...nope..never doo that kids (wizz will be mocking u^^)

at those bosses u can use charge,sword cannon, and dash and fade step...

4.U SHOULD TRAIN ALL UR MASTERIES TO TRANS(includes magic :P)

:damnmate:

XenodragoonE
14-06-2007, 16:46
wizard (sword- skills) vs warrior (magic- skills). who will win?^^

Flarez
14-06-2007, 17:11
WArrior magics skills wud probaly win, Wizards mite hit ones :D

Kintaro
14-06-2007, 20:49
no diss man, but where were u living untill now? under a rock? :heeeelllllooooo:

1.BM2 is probably the worst BM of all classes
2.FB is not good in pvp...(FA is OP)
3.WA using magic skills...nope..never doo that kids (wizz will be mocking u^^)

at those bosses u can use charge,sword cannon, and dash and fade step...

4.U SHOULD TRAIN ALL UR MASTERIES TO TRANS(includes magic :P)

:damnmate:

lol you probably didn't read this :p


It isn't; use sword cannon.

And you could also kill the boss with just novice skills


haha lol Multi Cannon is way to far bro ;)

most lvl 60 players don't have it yet (well if they don't dummy ofcours), so training MAGIC skills is faster then reaching Master (or was it A.Expert 40?? don't remmember, didn't played since 1st OB)

i myself was lvl 67 (didn't reached 80, caus i was to bussy with crafting rings. i made in total 4 EXP RINGS LVL 105 :rock: !!!! during OB i was 2nd best ring crafter, 1st was Zang (or somthing ,damn don't remember his name)


like i said here above i didn't play since OB (about 6-7 moths ago?)

and most ppl don't have Master skills (or A.Expert) at lvl 60 ;)

ow and during OB (while i was playing) the strongest player was FB! ;) and 2nd was FA. this 2 guys were about same lvl and did lot of duels, and FB won the most duels ;) (so i'm talking from my experience during OB )


anyway, why did you said don't train Magic skills ?? (they boost your DEX stats too)
if you manage to get high lvl (i think MASTER/MASTER) you can wear titan at lvl 50. (experience from CB. in CB max lvl was 50, and some ppl could wear pimped titans, thnx to high MAGIC and SWORD skills :p)

Quadraxis
14-06-2007, 20:52
lol you probably didn't read this :p






like i said here above i didn't play since OB (about 6-7 moths ago?)

and most ppl don't have Master skills (or A.Expert) at lvl 60 ;)


anyway, why did you said don't train Magic skills ?? (they boost your DEX stats too)
if you manage to get high lvl (i think MASTER/MASTER) you can wear titan at lvl 50. (experience from CB. in CB max lvl was 50, and some ppl could wear pimped titans, thnx to high MAGIC and SWORD skills :p)

YOu know that you can skill train? Double Trans at lvl 50 is possible too ;)

Kintaro
15-06-2007, 12:10
YOu know that you can skill train? Double Trans at lvl 50 is possible too ;)

you mean Dummy ??
1st: Dummy was only in first CB and was removed in OB :p
2nd: Dummy will be only if you Pay. (no Dummies for "Free Players")

or do you mean by Equiping full Skill EXP (rings, necklace, weapon, armor,...) and using novice skills and doing lot of succesfull combo's ??? well, if you mean that, then you'll be above lvl 50 in no time ;)


(dus tis onmogelek zonder dummies Trans/Trans ;))

Ghostwalker
15-06-2007, 12:24
You can always skill on grey mobs. They give no exp, but they give skill exp. I would recomend that, because i high skill rank is needed on the later maps.

Kintaro
15-06-2007, 12:47
You can always skill on grey mobs. They give no exp, but they give skill exp. I would recomend that, because i high skill rank is needed on the later maps.

that's true, but still i don't see any reason to lvl only your skills, if you can do your skills AND lvl (if you train on grey caus you worry about HP pots, then you can just kill "light yellow", they'll atlast giv you some exp to lvl :p)

Diablohead
21-06-2007, 21:32
Being a warrior from the beta and first month of pay to play last year I have to say they are a very fun class, most of the time my one on ones end up with me losing but then i'm still not a g.master yet, but attacking multiple mobs with aoe attacks can get no better, warrior is a great class in my books, but not the best overall.

Warriors are also good to lead partys, but to tank any kind of mob I would go with a shielder.

poopeedoo
24-06-2007, 02:52
one thing i don't like about warriors in this game is, unlike warriors in all other games, our HP aren't too outstanding.

Yawgemoth
26-06-2007, 19:50
hi there
i am new to the game (just downloaded it, and havent still turned it on "D)
the reason i still havent turned it on is that i dont know what class to chose...
my first pick would be Warriour, so i would like to hear some pros and cons about the warriour, tips on how to play it etc...

cagi94
27-09-2008, 11:56
hello i am lvl 60 dual tranc. what u say for that:victory:

Little_B
27-09-2008, 12:06
i'd pobably say ur using bot, but i would be mean...

so i'm just saying GRATZ !

Quindecim
27-09-2008, 14:20
wow.. this thread, nice find. :wild: