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hemayag
14-09-2008, 20:06
Hello everyone :)

I have actually have a craft 8%rate 2slot dmg osm GS and a craft 8%rate 2slot dmg helm.

I'm thinking about changing them, but i don't know what to choose:

-First choice: Buying a Osm GS 1slot crit rate-1slot crit dmg and extend it so it will give 14%rate-48%dmg + Osmium armor helm 36%dmg.

-Second choice: Buying a Osm GS craft 32%dmg-1slot crit dmg and extend it so i'll have 80%dmg + Keeping my helm (8%rate-20%dmg).

The two choice give an average of 53,5%dmg but maybe the second one could be improve when i'll have money, easier than the frist one.

thx :)

Little_B
14-09-2008, 20:42
Hello everyone :)

I have actually have a craft 8%rate 2slot dmg osm GS and a craft 8%rate 2slot dmg helm.

I'm thinking about changing them, but i don't know what to choose:

-First choice: Buying a Osm GS 1slot crit rate-1slot crit dmg and extend it so it will give 14%rate-48%dmg + Osmium armor helm 36%dmg.

-Second choice: Buying a Osm GS craft 32%dmg-1slot crit dmg and extend it so i'll have 80%dmg + Keeping my helm (8%rate-20%dmg).

The two choice give an average of 53,5%dmg but maybe the second one could be improve when i'll have money, easier than the frist one.

thx :)

i'd go for the 1st chioice...it's practically way better ;) cuz you can't compare 44 rate with 38 ;)


i mean , what is the use of high crit DMG if you ain't critting that much :D

hemayag
14-09-2008, 21:13
But it can be return too^^

What the use to crit often if you don't crit hard? :)

That's why i use to calculate the average dmg:

1st choice: 49%rate (30% from rol+2, 5%base, 14%from GS) and 109%dmg (5% AoP+4--48%GS--36%helm-20Base)

Average 49*109/100= about 53,5

2nd choice: 43%rate ( 30% from rol+2, 5%base, 8%helm) + 125%dmg (5% AoP+4--80%GS--20%helm-20%base)

Average: 43*125/100= still about 53,5


I'm asking it because of the crit rate resist of monster, especially in dongeon, and when i'll be in Aura mode (so with a crit ring 15%) what would be the best?

keek
14-09-2008, 22:44
But it can be return too^^

What the use to crit often if you don't crit hard? :)

That's why i use to calculate the average dmg:

1st choice: 49%rate (30% from rol+2, 5%base, 14%from GS) and 109%dmg (5% AoP+4--48%GS--36%helm-20Base)

Average 49*109/100= about 53,5

2nd choice: 43%rate ( 30% from rol+2, 5%base, 8%helm) + 125%dmg (5% AoP+4--80%GS--20%helm-20%base)

Average: 43*125/100= still about 53,5


I'm asking it because of the crit rate resist of monster, especially in dongeon, and when i'll be in Aura mode (so with a crit ring 15%) what would be the best?

I use the first option mentioned and I'm pretty happy with it. It's not perfect for duels, because you can always lose to lower level people who use this rol2-only-but-dmg-like-hell-and-pray-for-a-crit-luckcrap build and whine 9 out of 10 duels that they had 0 crit.

But duels are gay anyway and in pve i really enjoy this 49% rate way. It just rocks that mobs die at the same time etc.

Regards,
Keekina

Kiitsune
15-09-2008, 00:25
i mean , what is the use of high crit DMG if you ain't critting that much :D

I dont agre with you ... second way is 100 times better ... first way just spending money for nothing ...

Little_B
15-09-2008, 06:18
What the use to crit often if you don't crit hard? :)


higher crit rate for a rit based char means higher DPS ... even though, u have higher crit DMG , trust me "dinosaur" players have thought and tested this...and they all have come to the conclusion that for a crit based char(WA) it is mostly important to get the max rate first then add crit damage and amp ;) .

Little_B
15-09-2008, 06:19
I dont agre with you ... second way is 100 times better ... first way just spending money for nothing ...

so you are saying that an ugly man with a large penis is more happier "women-wise" then a pretty man with an average penis right?

:laugh1:

*merge my posts please, srry*

kirmaster
15-09-2008, 09:06
the only time when a DMg craft is better as a rate craft of the same kind ( aka dmg/2 is rate) is at 16% dmg rate slot dmg slot. All Others go to rate.
Yes, this is based on calculation.
i ditched my stit GS max craft 1slot dmg (52% )+5 for a osm GS 6% rate 40% dmg 2 slots because that 6% rate gives more dps as that 12% dmg.

Little_B
15-09-2008, 09:15
let's just hope the kids get it :p

Kuno
15-09-2008, 09:50
let's just hope the kids get it :p

sry but "lol"

10chars

Kiitsune
15-09-2008, 17:33
so you are saying that an ugly man with a large penis is more happier "women-wise" then a pretty man with an average penis right?

:laugh1:

*merge my posts please, srry*

Helm 40 dmg 7% rate is not so hard to make, but speinding SEH on nooblike weapon this is as i say before just wasting money ... big penis own, even ugly man can become beautyful when he turn on his aura.

maldy
16-09-2008, 21:24
a little noob question :P

why not use Red osmium? i see so many higher lvl people walking around with the green swords, while the red swords have higher dps

BlackShapira
16-09-2008, 22:11
http://forum.cabalonline.com/showthread.php?t=66811

check mines its ok i think

Izuall
16-09-2008, 22:11
simple.
how many redosm double sloted GSz have u seen lately hmm?
dont even want to think about DB on redosmy(surrpases my imagination ^^)

maldy
16-09-2008, 22:30
the drop rates at higher lvls are a bit ******** in the least way in this game, i made a thread about this. grinding for hours after lvl 100 and end up with like 5 crappy items, that vendor for like 300k total :P

Izuall
16-09-2008, 22:39
the drop rates at higher lvls are a bit ******** in the least way in this game, i made a thread about this. grinding for hours after lvl 100 and end up with like 5 crappy items, that vendor for like 300k total :P
welcome to the club m8.

Little_B
18-09-2008, 12:05
Helm 40 dmg 7% rate is not that hard to make

i really really really really really really...100x times + ... really LOL'ed !:laugh1:

Side note : if you really want advice...seriously take it, cuz as i see it you made some calculations and you're just pending for aproval wich any pro-warior cannot give in this circumstance.

you should listen to the dudes that really played a lot and tried all the things your trying to calculate theoretically ;)

hemayag
19-09-2008, 17:37
Ok :)

Thank you for advise, i think I will go to keek and Little_B choice.

Kiitsune
19-09-2008, 20:15
And become owned by me :D

klosmos
30-09-2008, 12:45
dunno:yahoo:

Jaid
30-09-2008, 13:06
a little noob question :P

why not use Red osmium? i see so many higher lvl people walking around with the green swords, while the red swords have higher dps

I am using a osm GS of destruction 2 slots ;p it got about 6 attack more then red osm same grade :P