Bm2 Skill?

[Tokiyo]

Hi Fellow wizard outhere.i am stil new to wizard and having hard times with wizard bm2 and i have 2 question here.

what skill is recommended for bossing like pf/berderk/Ft?

what skill to use on nation war and pk.

thnaks in advance :don-t_mention:

[Funk]

BM2--> GM, COMP, Hailstorm and 5cannons (is what i use)

[dayMdel]

My eyes.
They're bleeding.

[Quantummage]

I pair off,

AF&Comp, GM&Hailstorm, 2cannons, 2 cannons.

The 1st 4 skills are grouped in such a way due to range reasons.

Ironically even in BM2, to maximise dps, you have to be basically in melee range in order to use AF comp. Skip those 2 skills to attack from range safely. This applies to PvE and PvP situations. Personaly judgement is often helpful.

E.g. Unless you have SS on, using AF+Comp on FT2 bosses may not be the best idea in a 1 FA party.

[Funk]

Well thats the reason why i left out af, 4range makes me feel kinda safe ^^(i know its only 1range differ)
So i paired em off like this , Gm/comp, cannon/cannon, hs/cannon, cannon/cannon.
If u really want u can even leave out comp and take a 6th cannon to get 8range but this would be too much of dps-loss if u ask me.

[shaukan]

hmm for tg definetly aoe skills, but for bosses i tryed on penna, when i using comp gm hali, i cant kill on bm+aura, but when i use lances + cannons i use 8 for bosses i can do it easy.

[takolin]

hmm for tg definetly aoe skills, but for bosses i tryed on penna, when i using comp gm hali, i cant kill on bm+aura, but when i use lances + cannons i use 8 for bosses i can do it easy.

That's odd.
All skills have the same cast time and GM/comp should outdamage a cannon.
Maybe cooltime issues?

[shaukan]

u sure that hail storm+ comp has the same cast like 2x lance i am preatty sure that no anyway i will test it today little bit more

[Quantummage]

Cannons have 2.0 secs, lances 1.8 secs in general, GM has 2.5 secs etc.

However all BM2 skills have a cast time of 1.7 sec as confirmed by Inquisitor. I think you may have an issue of... casting them properly.

Frankly it can be tricky to cast BM2 skills. To maximise dps, its not just as simple as randomly mashing keys and cast whatever is not in cooldown, though that might work if you mash fast enough.

E.g. for bosses like chakris and orca, I pretty much have to actually concentrate on make sure the skills are simulatenously cast.

The way it works is you press one skill, you cast, and press another skill, even though the first skill hasnt finished casting you can cast a 2nd skill. Thats dual casting, which is obvious. :D

Hence what you get is lets say, *cast* (delay 0.1 sec while you press the 2nd skill) *cast) so you get the skills are casted in 1.8 seconds time. However it is perfectly possible to cast 1 skill, wait 0.5 seconds, and then cast the 2nd skill. The total casting time of the 2 skills will be 2.2seconds. Despite such a small number, this can actually make a LOT of difference in your total dps.

This is because you can only cast the NEXT pair of skills AFTER the 2nd skill has finished. Obviously it would be best to spam it as fast as possible, eg. 1.8 secs, 1.7 secs, 1.9 secs for 3 pairs as opposed to 2.2 secs, 2.5 secs, 2.4 secs for 3 pairs.

This also brings the issue of cooltime. Its pretty obvious that you can cast only when skill has finished cooling down. But you could get is if say, the GM and Comp have different cooling times, and you try to cast the pair as soon as GM finished cooltime, and try to cast comp, which doesn't work until it finished cooling down. The amount of extra time that the comp needs is the amount of time you lose to start casting another skill.

Hence it is important to cast a pair of skills only when both have cooled down.

You skill bars can also make a difference, if you don't have enough skills, and all the skills are in cooldown, thats also time wasted.

[Ukitake123]

I dunno if that bm2 cast time thingy is correct :S
I just tested it on my wiz with 1 lance and comp
The lance hit first while the comp skill still got casted(btw i pressed the comp button first and then the lance one :S)
And till the comp skill finishes casting you can't double cast again so imo you lose a lot of dps :/

[Dunpeal]

Using bm2 can be hard sometimes. Dont forget that we have to keep an eye on our HP bar as well:P I would love to get any change for casting system like: When You press 1 skill the next available one is pressed automaticly. Like some kind of auto attack:P

[Quantummage]

I dunno if that bm2 cast time thingy is correct :S
I just tested it on my wiz with 1 lance and comp
The lance hit first while the comp skill still got casted(btw i pressed the comp button first and then the lance one :S)
And till the comp skill finishes casting you can't double cast again so imo you lose a lot of dps :/

Well, by casting time, what you have to measure is the the animation YOU cast. It is quite likely what you measured was the animation of the skill itself. The animation of the skill, and hence the damage will still play out normally. Therefore the damage of the GM would still take 2.5 seconds to hit the enemy. However, you would be ready to cast another pair of skills by the time Comp animation is finished. If you cast comp without BM2, the full animation would play out, and you will have a second delay or so before you can cast again.

[Tokiyo]

what levl of Gm and comp skill u guy added for bm2 able to loop back?

[xxdvinexx]

I pair off,

AF&Comp, GM&Hailstorm, 2cannons, 2 cannons.

The 1st 4 skills are grouped in such a way due to range reasons.

Ironically even in BM2, to maximise dps, you have to be basically in melee range in order to use AF comp. Skip those 2 skills to attack from range safely. This applies to PvE and PvP situations. Personaly judgement is often helpful.

E.g. Unless you have SS on, using AF+Comp on FT2 bosses may not be the best idea in a 1 FA party.
I use the same and quote for truth...hail quantum the bible of wis:P <3 :)

[NuDreamz]

hi,

1st of all, i like to apologise for the stupidity of the question i'm gonna ask.
2ndly, if someone dun mind telling me the answer, pls go step by step.

Thanks a lot.

Recently, i "took" over wiz from my gf. She somehow stopped playing as her exams coming. I know there's quite a few threads on wiz bm2, and i've gone around reading them, but here's the prob.
I know when bm2, there is 2 bars available and wiz can target 2 different targets. I know that by clicking the 2 different targets, i can start casting skills and att them. I know the casting time for all skills in bm2 is 1.7sec. But this is where my knowledge ends.
I saw the skills some of the wiz (quantummage) said about using, eg AF&Com, GM&Hailstorm, 2 cannons, 2 cannons, etc. But how do i use it? Do i just anyhow press the skills one after another or is there some better ways?

Eg: Pls note that it's just example of skills on keypad, rather than exact skills gonna use:
Keypad num skills
1 ------------------ af
2 ------------------ com
3 ------------------ gm
4 ------------------ hs
5 ------------------ stone cannon
6 ------------------ fire cannon
7 ------------------ aqua cannon
8 ------------------ fire lance
9 ------------------ bm2

so, i click "9", then target 2 different mobs. then i start pressing "1" skill on 1st mob and "2" skill for 2nd mob, then "3" will target 1st mob again and "4" will target 2nd mob again? or i press both "1" and "2" together, then followed by "3" and "4" together, etc???

thanks for helping with such a noob question... :)

[Dunpeal]

Just mash the buttons of 2 cooled skills all the time. And one more thing: You have to keep an eye on Your mana bar. If You run out of mana and You drink it automaticly... it counts as a casted skill... Yeah i know its ******. For example: You casted Your skill number 1 and You are ready to cast another one but Your mana bar is empty. The game automaticly drinks a potion. As an effect You casted only one skill + drink the potion and thats all. So during all bm2 You have to stare at Your skill bar, hp bar and mana bar and its hard to see what is happening around You. You can also get some mana steal to make the mana thing easier.



so, i click "9", then target 2 different mobs. then i start pressing "1" skill on 1st mob and "2" skill for 2nd mob, then "3" will target 1st mob again and "4" will target 2nd mob again? or i press both "1" and "2" together, then followed by "3" and "4" together, etc???

Just mash two cooled skills all the time. You char will be attacking them both(one skill for each mob).
Oh and You don't have to target 2 different mobs. If You target only one, then both skills will be casted on him.

[molchilein]

9 skills?? u need just 6 in bm2. On bosses and single targets gm/comp and 4 cannons (the cannons do more dmg than arctic and the others, and in places with maaany mobs i still like comp+gm - arctic+acid trap - hailstorm/vacuum.

In combination with a bit vamp it's just fun with 6 aoe's (3xstun, 2x knock-doen ) :)

[zomago]

this is my BM2 combo and trust me i love it...i use af+gm only on tg where is alot of procs for massive aoe..and in dungeons..and i prefeer Hailstorm and Vacuum be in my bm2 for 75% down in pvp instead 45% knock back of cannons.