Hmm I need to combo, for example in FT, EOD b2f , or CA, when tanking many mobs..
In those situations I need a powerful leech therfore need to combo or die in endless suffering & shame.
PS : my VI is lv 20 for pvp & pve DPS
Hmm I need to combo, for example in FT, EOD b2f , or CA, when tanking many mobs..
In those situations I need a powerful leech therfore need to combo or die in endless suffering & shame.
PS : my VI is lv 20 for pvp & pve DPS
Found the answer : depends on how many mobs I crit.... Very simple indeed!
Someone with enough skills should do something like this on a site like http://www.orazur.free.fr/
Like having a checkbox to enter desired HP, level and average hit dmg, then be able to choose between vamp gear, amulets, earings, bracelets, board, gloves with X%, giving the limits and when the leech % was over the limit give a warning line.
Would be awesome to do some testing
If anyone does that he'll be my new god.
not only crit, leech deals for every single mob hitted!Originally Posted by Blademankiller
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Yes, but if you have low hp steal, you leech a lot more from crit hits compared to non crit ones.
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Im 158 WI - 6% HP steal , 46 hp steal per hit.3200 HP .Need some help with leeching in PF.I hit 4 000 with crit on cornus, but what to increase?
Last edited by XxDidkoxX; 17-12-2011 at 21:01.
General rule: attack / 100 * % hp steal
In your case: 4000/100 * 6 = 240. This means you can get max 240 hp from a single hit (and a single mob ofc), but you only have 46 max hp steal.
If we take into account the (still unproven) vampiric limit (5% of your total hp): 3200/100*5 = 160 -> this is your treshold.
In short: Increase your 46 hp steal. This limit means you will never get more than 46 hp each hit and each mob (so 2 mobs are 2 times 46 hp). try to get it to at least 100 without losing damage.
[nice bump btw]
lolzzz
why i steal 100-500 hp each hit ???
Because you are hitting more mobs.
Example: 100 max hp absorb, some % hp -> hitting a group of 5 mobs gives you up to 500 hp.
i have 6% hp steal and 147 hp steal right now and staying on ispita is so simplebut for wi 4% and 120 hp steal is enough on expin
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I think its a really great work, couldn't explain it better on my own word.
Yeah but how much dmg do you loose when not having aos+5 or aos+6 (if you have one?)5% or 10% dmg + the extra defense it gives you, it's not really worth it as you need all the possible dmg you can get so maybe it's better to keep the hp limit up on boots + rune + vampiric earrings
You get better damage if you can survive due to using somewhat better vamp, and giving up that 5-10% crit damage from aop+5/6. For some dungeons or some situations you just need to keep your vamp high, else you die. If you then choose for max damage and vamp on the second place, you will die and the result is that your total damage output is lower. It isn't black and white, you actually need to find a balance between your damage and your survive-ability.you need all the possible dmg you can get so maybe it's better to keep the hp limit up on boots + rune + vampiric earrings
Keep that in mind.
The guide is cool though.
There is no damn limit and there never was as far back as I have tried. I had 1600 HP on wi-wi and stole around 200 per hit (I specifically equipped +HP steal items and white board for this test, to reach 200+ hp steal. That's more than 12% of my HP ...
Also, when you mention the general rule, remove the % from hp steal, and mention the damage not attack. People confuse attack with magic attack, and %Hp steal can't be used with % in front.
By your formula, it would be :
1065 (random magic value example) / 100 * 4 / 100
when in fact the formula is %HP steal * Damage = +HP steal, which translates into
Damage/100 * 4 = +HP steal, which is correct.
Last edited by RatzaTM; 04-05-2012 at 09:01.
o.o That's interesting, when was this test made though? Maybe it has changed since?
I really wonder where that rumor/info comes from then as it seems widely "known", could be worth trying out again though you'd have to lower your HP a bit first ^^
I did the test in 2007 and then it was repeated daily since 2008 or so by Flyby who used 18% and a lot of +HP steal so as to get back maximum HP possible, while not comboing, in dropset, on non crits, in MF / PF
Let's just say that the info/rumor might've been tested in the wrong conditions.
To lower the HP, simply equip vampiric aramids on a lvl 50 char, then remove all crit gear and go hit something for 900 - 1000 max.
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