For Zoom: http://forum.cabalonline.com/showthread.php?t=137386
Check 30 December update. Btw, I am the reliable source xD
About the lycanus: From what I remember that we discussed, the sloted lycanus have same stats (or 2 atk less) than mith sloted. The restriction on sloting lycanus was made to not make them too Op'ed like some1 from above said.
P.S: Don't forget my old saying: Community implication > Est/GM's
Well Dande... for me this is STILL NOT a proof for what you assumed. I see a translator and I see NO words from OUR gm in OUR community from OUR euro server saying that slotted item CAN'T be EXTENDED. Too powerful ? I don't think so.Originally Posted by dedantemon
It could just become better than the regular 2 Slots mithril that we have atm.
Sure if you imagine the top for lycan blade slotted with 3 * 10% cdi on craft + slot that would be 54% dmg with extended with 24 atk less.
However let's take the ultimate "drop" mithril in game aka a mithril blade of DB WITH an extra slot ( seen mithril suit(WI) of smthing craft with magic amp in slot & extra slot ? just to say that i'm not talking about anything 'impossible' there ). Let's count : 16% on craft, 7% amp in first slot, 12% second slot extended + 12% third slot result of extension = 40% craft 7% sword amp and 24 atk to top it all. 14% cdi vs 7% amp&24 atk.
I can't say I want to take lycanus instead of such a Mithril. Actually I'm pretty sure it's not stronger but it could come close. However I can say for sure that I could take this lycanus over a 20% mithril +7 1 hand weapon anytime.
Your assumption of 2 atk less... Take Metaldevil picture of slotted lycanus blade 99 atk. As you are well aware now, lycan stats increases the same as Mithril stat due to the UCHH effects. 6+6+6+6+6+12+24 = 66 = +7. 123 atk mithril blade 1 slot + 66 = 189. 99 + 66 = 165. Also, 99 slotted lycan's blade and 123 slotted mithril blade that's already 24 atk diff at root. Now I can tell you Community implication < my ig experience/reality = my analysis when something new appears.*
Anyway if Metaldevil succeed to +7 you can check by yourself the truth. Also you could take the mithril orb +7 non slot on the 2nd page of this thread = 154 Matk & compare to mithril orb +7 non slot or with slot but you'll need to add extra atk to make up for the "slot" version on the lycan. Also from +6 lycan orb and +7 same lycan orb we still obtain a good 24 Matk diff. ( compare here http://forum.cabalonline.com/showthr...ighlight=lycan when it was +6 )
Also lycan orb no slot = 88 Matk. Mithril orb no slot = 112 Matk. Again a base difference of 24 magic or 24 Atk. Don't know where you got your 2 Matk/Atk difference ever from ....
I'm waiting for official words of a GM or for GM Caesar to spawn a SLOTTED lycan Weapon + SEHH with slot and try extending. Beside supposedly the GMs are translating and updating the data from what they receive. Anyway your information is not correct & you are mistaken from this mere analysis in game of pure stats on weapons.
Last edited by Zoom; 07-06-2010 at 14:01.
Well, instead of 10 CD, you can have 7 amp and 7 amp > 10 CD
You can have 3x 7 amp + 24 CD + 7 rate in the last slot if you extend
Well, let's take 21 amp and 24 CD vs 40 CD 7 amp mith and 24 atk like u said (my bad, i though that the lycanus stats were higher) and you get to compare 14 amp vs 16 CD and 24 atk, where 7 amp >= 16 CD, and 7 amp > 24 atk, so the lycanus is better.
As you can see, this is why it was implemented, the restriction.
Btw, you can wait 1 k years for the reply from Gm's and you still won't get the answer
But like the saying goes, "Hope dies last".
The only reason why I stated max crit and amp on mithril was because on purpose on mithril you cant benefit from more than 2 slots extended effect from CDI.Well, instead of 10 CD, you can have 7 amp and 7 amp > 10 CD
You can have 3x 7 amp + 24 CD + 7 rate in the last slot if you extend
Well, let's take 21 amp and 24 CD vs 40 CD 7 amp mith and 24 atk like u said (my bad, i though that the lycanus stats were higher) and you get to compare 14 amp vs 16 CD and 24 atk, where 7 amp >= 16 CD, and 7 amp > 24 atk, so the lycanus is better.
As you can see, this is why it was implemented, the restriction.
Btw, you can wait 1 k years for the reply from Gm's and you still won't get the answer
But like the saying goes, "Hope dies last".
Btw you can't have 3 slots on Lycanus just so you don't mistake items. Lycan goes out from 0 slot to 1 slot whereas mithril comes out with 1 or 2 slots. The point is you will never get amp in slot for a lycanus.
Fine by me you get it from the 3 options. So not to waste stats let's say 21% amp,24 atk less, 24% cdi.
So to compare with that let's take Amp mithril blade. 14% amp ( craft + slot ) +24 CDI remaining 2nd & 3rd slot & 24 atk more. So basically you trade 7% amp for 24 atk. In that case I believe that 7% amp could be slightly better ( although the % amp benefit varies greatly from the base atk and from the "break points". )
Anyway I agree with you there, lycan could be better at this point but I still don't see the possibility of having 3 times MAX amp spawning anytime soon or ever lol.
Maybe there could be a max amounts of stats possible within one lycan ( still have to see max stats 3 times... at least once on the same item... ).
But I still stand by my theory and I wonder why GMs would have omitted to state so obvious ( probably bec SEHH is a far away dream though which is why they didn't look into it )... Anyway you made a good point on that triple amp but the possibility is so slim maybe we should talk about it in 3 years or smthing...
Lycan could have 3 slots if it would drop 2 slot too, but it is a waste anyway, so 1 slot is good enough + 1 slot from SEHH IF they could be sloted
GM's didn't announce us when Est changed from temporary to perma the crafted stuffs from weakened dungs.
Like I said many times, Community Implication > GM's/Est.
Well I don't see a 0 slot item becomes a 1 slot item with 12% cdi increase ( for example ) whereas someone lucky alrdy got 1 slot by base and just get 10% cdi benefit from it. That's against the mecanical of cabal and that never occured before. An item where you can apply a slot extender ( any ) is still an item where you can apply the extender at any number of slots at generation. That is a "law" of cabal.Lycan could have 3 slots if it would drop 2 slot too, but it is a waste anyway, so 1 slot is good enough + 1 slot from SEHH IF they could be sloted
GM's didn't announce us when Est changed from temporary to perma the crafted stuffs from weakened dungs.
Like I said many times, Community Implication > GM's/Est.
Anyway imo the limit of those items "power wise" would remain in the amount of max craft you can get within one item. I still have yet to see on 1 single hand weapon 3 craft options MAXED. So far we saw min craft and medium ( add dmg +5 *3 ( if my memory is correct ) , cdi +5% *3 & skill amp 3/5/3% ).
Time ( or GM ) will tell which way the developper took but I would rather think that the limitation was made stat wise rather than "forbidding to extend" due to the natural "number of slots/non slot" of the item.
P.S : O btw you were right for the weakened dungeons HOWEVER we are talking about old items available for low levels from lvl 55 to 75 or so that you can keep up to end lvl for some classes. But this wasn't a major change AKA a complete new update with new weapons and new contents. This was just an alteration of the duration items that ALREADY existed. And I guess the only reasons GMs didn't see it was probably because they don't reroll a new char every week for a damn maintenance
O and just to make clear one thing ( unless you can prove the contrary with a screenshot, this is what I gathered so far on Lycanus weapon's stats on 1 hand weapons from the various screenshots existing atm ( feel free to double numbers when it comes to 2 hands weapon ofc )) :
* All Skill Amp UP : 3%, 4%, 5%
* Critical Rate UP : 1%, 2%, 4%
* Critical Damage UP : 5%, 7%, 10% ( supplying a screenshot for the 10% value since it s kinda rare for now : http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...ndili/lyca.jpg )
* Add Damage UP : +5, +10, +15
* All attack UP : +5, +7, +10
*Updated with current knowledge.
@Dandetemon
So if stats are maxed like I think they are, then you will never have such a weapon you mentionned ( 21 % ) therefore the max lycan you could get would be 15% amp ( 3* 5% ) and 24% dmg which would still be inferior to mithril 14% amp & 24% cdi ( due to the 24 atk diff ).
And well I seriously do not believe a lycanus could spawn with 2 slots at base due to the 3 craft options existing already and this is where the "nerf" is imo...
Anyway until GM or a Screenshot proves that i'm wrong I will stick to my theory that any lycanus with 0 or 1 slot can still be enhanced with a SEHH.
Last edited by Zoom; 08-06-2010 at 16:21.
u can extend slotted/nonslotted lycanus . tnx
@ Zoom: All Attack up +7 is possible and rate 5% too i think
Last edited by OLSkyline; 08-06-2010 at 13:34.
Noted but as long as I don't see a screenshot I won't take the risk to update the list. Beside when we can get all number we shall open a thread summarying everything about Lycanus with facts. But thanks for the hook up though. For now I still didn't see more than 3 variations on number for a given craft. Even though I want to think 5% rate is possible...for "nerf/restriction" reason it might not be. @ Atk up I believe you should be right but I will wait for screens.
@OLSkyline : Cool then I will check it & update later when you post it.
Last edited by Zoom; 08-06-2010 at 13:51.
I have a screen for the +7 attack, but i'm not on my computer for the moment. Wait 6.00 Pm O.O
Edit:
My private Lycanus =3
Great Thanks
Imo, I just posted link from the Korean site where they implemented this and newer changed it. So judging from the actual data from the korean site, sloted lycan cannot be extended.
Anyway, even if it could, first you need a good wep to extend it (witch is almost impossible) and second, you need SEHH (witch does not exists on our server). So it is not worth to stress yourself for this atm
Then you shouldn't start spreading such thing if you're aware of this...Imo, I just posted link from the Korean site where they implemented this and newer changed it. So judging from the actual data from the korean site, sloted lycan cannot be extended.
Anyway, even if it could, first you need a good wep to extend it (witch is almost impossible) and second, you need SEHH (witch does not exists on our server). So it is not worth to stress yourself for this atm
Just saying that there is 24 atk difference and 1% amp difference which then now don't make a lycan more powerful than mithril even with SEHH. And ye until GM or an official patch says so I wouldn't rely on the data you got or I would keep it quiet until it really happens...
The best Lycanus i saw, was a Blade 9 Amp and 10 dmg and same GS
Thank you guys for all of your updates.
The discussion part is good cause were getting into it on which one is powerful. Now that we've seen a lot of different lyca weps.
But for the right pls keep on posting Lyca weps to see the best there realy is.
thanks
still w8tin to drop ma 41 dmg lycanus orb xd
Set divided alz given cabal uninstalled gl &hf
one member on my guild have gs 8% amp 8% amp 10% dmg
Not great for a GS really. Works out to 4% amp 4% amp 5% dmg.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvxpqhgIdzA < Fan-made cabal trailer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xod50PdkMa0 < w0otzor's Memories
fresh drop :x
I haz 3 now...
katana 4rate 5dmg 10atk
blade 7dmg 10add 3amp
katana forgot stats ._.
seems easy to drop (made... 11 succeeded runs), but seems hard to drop smth useful ;o
no more lycanus? wanna see some new screens :P
FS lvl 138
FB lvl 70
15 runs here, always uchh from lycanus chest.. >_>
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