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    Default TG Builder title

    In TG people get titles for killing Caps/Procs, they get a title for killing Guardians, but the Builders don't get any titles.

    Killing Guardians gives you extra Attack/Magic Attack. So what if there's a Builder title that gives you a little extra Defense, HP or Resist crit/rate? Or the more you build the faster you build?
    Same as for the guardian killing titles. 0/1 0/10 and 0/100 builds. (Even tho it isn't shown)
    Bases, Center, Alpha & Omega - Produce Large towers, building one of those will give you 3 points.
    West & East line - Produce Medium towers, building one of those will give you 2 points.
    North & South line - Produce Small towers, building one of those will give you 1 point.
    Legacy Tower Builder Lv. 1 (0/1)
    Legacy Tower Builder Lv. 2 (1/10)
    Legacy Tower Builder Lv. 3 (10/100)
    Legacy Tower Builder Lv. 4 (100/1000)
    Building with the little thingies you can buy at Base will NOT give you build points in your title! The portable towers will not count as proper builds. They have to be at certain bases.
    Bases that will give you title points: Procyon Base, S7, S6, S5, Omega, E4, W8, W9, Center, E3, E2, W10, Alpha, N11, N10, N1, Capella base.
    Suggestion for stats
    HP, HP Regeneration, Defense, Critical Rate resist, Critical DMG resist, Build speed +% & Movement speed +.
    Point idea: Points given while building only. One point per 15/30 seconds, does not matter which tower. If this will be the solution the amount of title points you need to gain will need to be risen then.
    Suggestions for the stats you'll get from the titles are still welcome since I have no idea what would be decent enough.

    Please refrain from flaming, egoism and random off-topic chit chat.
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    It has been suggested many many times already, and it's quite sad to see after so many years of people asking for it, it still hasn't been implemented.
    So yeah, +1, even though, as usual, it prolly will be ignored.
    Although, I really don't think getting different kind of titles for building different kind of towers is necessary, just one title for all, that'll be complicated enough for ESTsoft already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dayday View Post
    It has been suggested many many times already, and it's quite sad to see after so many years of people asking for it, it still hasn't been implemented. So yeah, +1, even though, as usual, it prolly will be ignored. Although, I really don't think getting different kind of titles for building different kind of towers is necessary, just one title for all, that'll be complicated enough for ESTsoft already.
    Ok, so only one title, but maybe let the Large towers give 3 points, Medium 2 and small 1? So you'll get a bigger reward for the time you've actually been building.

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    That'd sound like a fair deal, yeah.
    Or maybe base the title on time spent building, and on the number of towers built? Dunno which sounds better.
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    Updated first post on the feedback Dayday has given me.

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    Been suggested many times before, +1 and I like the thread style ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireflyX View Post
    Been suggested many times before, +1 and I like the thread style ^^
    Yes, Dayday already said that but I've never seen a suggestion about that before so decided to make one anyway. :]
    and what do you mean with thread style?

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    Just the colors and formatting, the suggestion is put forward in a very nice and neat way

    Some suggestion threads are just blocks of text in one chunk, even if the suggestion is good the presentation doens't earn a +1 ^^

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    +1 from me, but I strongly doubt they will ever, ever add something that favors builders in TG. There have been countless suggestions (not exactly like this one though) about giving something extra to builders, but we never got heard.
    I'd suggest not to get extra builder count from building larger towers, but to only give a count for building warp/rez, or atleast give a higher count for these.

    About the bonus: I dont know if this is possible but if it is: +200defense or so, but ONLY when building or repairing a force tower. That would surely help a lot. It would be overpowered title to use outside of TG and such, but since it is only when building or repairing, it can't really be abused.

    Personally I would care more about getting little score from building with war points. Building with alz gives 9 score for a rez tower and less for other towers, dependant on the alz used and time spent on building them. I would suggest building with score gives around 3score for a rez or warp tower, 2score for a different tower on a L base, 1 score for a diff tower on a M base and 0 score for a diff tower on a S base. But I won't spoil your suggestion any further with my own suggestion. I'll try to work out some of my thoughts about making TG more of a war again instead of a farmfest, and put them in my own thread.

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    not bad idea i like why not some more tg titles

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    Quote Originally Posted by bakas13 View Post
    not bad idea i like why not some more tg titles
    Agreed, Builders usually cause the victory in a TG since Ress towers are a must if you want to win. So why not give them a reward?

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    yup builders are few and without them no victory

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    Oh, now that I come to think of it, I would have loved a builder hunter title too, back in the days.
    Y'know, that pain in the arse that keeps hunting builders down and kill them all? Tehehehe~
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    hahaha builder hunter xd i like that xd when im in good mood i hunt builders like hell xd

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    Quote Originally Posted by OliveX View Post
    Bases that will give you build points: Procyon Base, S7, S6, S5, Omega, E4, W8, W9, Center, E3, E2, W10, Alpha, N11, N10, N1, Capella base.
    I don't want to meet your math teacher.

    +1 on the idea.

    About stats, I agree with Killin, the best would be a building-only bonus, but I'm not sure it is technically possible. If so, a nice boost in def (100 per title level), HP (2500 per title level) or HP regen (250 per title level) would be nice, without being OP (let's not forget you can't fight when building).
    Even better would be a bonus to building speed (5% reduction to building time per title level for example), but I really think the big problem is going to be the technical side.

    Another possible bonus could be movement speed, with very small increases (like 25 per title level... you'd need title lv6 to get to the same speed as a board). That would give a small advantage, allowing you to move faster to res points ("let go, let go, priority I'M BUILDER") and to use a more defensive title like officer or honor title when actually building. I of course mean this bonus to be applicable only in TG, but I guess this is doable, given the old guardian/bringer titles behaviors, given NA's bringer behavior, and given our current dungeon titles behaviors.


    PS. Since you want to cut the offtopic, I'll finish the off-topic conversation here in advance :

    You : Lol Oro you fail, I used the logical way to count the bases, from proc base to cap base, in a snake.
    Me : The numerical order also can be seen as logical, from top-right corner clock-wise.
    You : Stop with the off-topic!!!
    Me : OK bb nab, Ima go heal milton instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bakas13 View Post
    hahaha builder hunter xd i like that xd when im in good mood i hunt builders like hell xd
    Ahaha, it's a part I really do enjoy sometimes xD

    Quote Originally Posted by SJS-Hunter View Post
    I don't want to meet your math teacher.

    You : Lol Oro you fail, I used the logical way to count the bases, from proc base to cap base, in a snake.
    Me : The numerical order also can be seen as logical, from top-right corner clock-wise.
    You : Stop with the off-topic!!!
    Me : OK bb nab, Ima go heal milton instead.
    I would like that to, but more related to her answer on your Core Enhancer suggestion thread, not on this one.

    It's rather logical to separate bases by how difficult they are to go to, how big they are, and how important they are between each other. The numerical order wouldn't make any sense whatsoever on the practical side, while this one kinda does, or at least way more than a clock-wise order. Though, granted, it could be perfected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJS-Hunter View Post
    I don't want to meet your math teacher.
    I don't even have a math teacher.

    Quote Originally Posted by SJS-Hunter View Post
    +1 on the idea.
    Good.

    Quote Originally Posted by SJS-Hunter View Post
    PS. Since you want to cut the offtopic, I'll finish the off-topic conversation here in advance :

    You : Lol Oro you fail, I used the logical way to count the bases, from proc base to cap base, in a snake.
    Me : The numerical order also can be seen as logical, from top-right corner clock-wise.
    You : Stop with the off-topic!!!
    Me : OK bb nab, Ima go heal milton instead.
    Wasn't going to mention that, but w/e.

    Quote Originally Posted by SJS-Hunter View Post
    About stats, I agree with Killin, the best would be a building-only bonus, but I'm not sure it is technically possible. If so, a nice boost in def (100 per title level), HP (2500 per title level) or HP regen (250 per title level) would be nice, without being OP (let's not forget you can't fight when building).
    Even better would be a bonus to building speed (5% reduction to building time per title level for example), but I really think the big problem is going to be the technical side.

    Another possible bonus could be movement speed, with very small increases (like 25 per title level... you'd need title lv6 to get to the same speed as a board). That would give a small advantage, allowing you to move faster to res points ("let go, let go, priority I'M BUILDER")
    Examples
    Legacy Tower Builder Lv. 2 HP +2500 & HP Regeneration +250
    Legacy Tower Builder Lv. 3 HP +5000 & HP Regeneration +500
    Legacy Tower Builder Lv. 4 HP +7500 & HP Regeneration +750

    Legacy Tower Builder Lv. 2 Defense +100
    Legacy Tower Builder Lv. 3 Defense +200
    Legacy Tower Builder Lv. 4 Defense +300
    (imo Defense needs something else as well, Critical DMG or Critical Rate resist?)

    Legacy Tower Builder Lv. 2 Building Speed +5%
    Legacy Tower Builder Lv. 3 Building Speed +10%
    Legacy Tower Builder Lv. 4 Building Speed +15%
    (Nothing extra to add here since you're done building fast anyway)

    Legacy Tower Builder Lv. 2 Movement Speed +100
    Legacy Tower Builder Lv. 3 Movement Speed +250
    Legacy Tower Builder Lv. 4 Movement Speed +350
    Legacy Tower Builder Lv. 5 Movement Speed +450
    Legacy Tower Builder Lv. 6 Movement Speed +600
    (If you wish to have the same movement speed as a board (K.Red in this case) at Lv. 6)

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    I really like the idea of a bonus that only applies when building (no matter what tower), HP and def would be enough I'd say

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJS-Hunter View Post
    About stats, I agree with Killin, the best would be a building-only bonus, but I'm not sure it is technically possible. If so, a nice boost in def (100 per title level), HP (2500 per title level) or HP regen (250 per title level) would be nice, without being OP (let's not forget you can't fight when building).

    no. given stats contradict 'without being OP'. even if it were to be implemented as title useable when building, it's still too op. that much def is one thing, but take into consideration that some ppl even build in bm2+aura. hp is also too much, not to mention the regen. feels like: god mode: on.
    plus, don't forget that most of the time there are more ppl guarding a builder, and also that these titles are farmable.

    still, +1 for the idea but not with these overpowered stats.

    anyway, since i'm pretty sure it won't be implemented as a 'when building only' title (i.e. useable anytime, even outside tg) something like 20 hp per lvl (which gets multiplied at tg), and 2 def per lvl would be more realistic.
    again, i'd like to point it out that these titles are farmable, so giving too high advantages would be a wrong move.

    just my 2 cents

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny41 View Post
    no. given stats contradict 'without being OP'. even if it were to be implemented as title useable when building, it's still too op. that much def is one thing, but take into consideration that some ppl even build in bm2+aura. hp is also too much, not to mention the regen. feels like: god mode: on.
    plus, don't forget that most of the time there are more ppl guarding a builder, and also that these titles are farmable.

    still, +1 for the idea but not with these overpowered stats.

    anyway, since i'm pretty sure it won't be implemented as a 'when building only' title (i.e. useable anytime, even outside tg) something like 20 hp per lvl (which gets multiplied at tg), and 2 def per lvl would be more realistic.
    again, i'd like to point it out that these titles are farmable, so giving too high advantages would be a wrong move.

    just my 2 cents
    Usually when I'm building (and nobody bothers to guard me, which is mostly the case) I get attacked by multiple Caps (usually you and Venecus, aka: over powered TG addicts xD No offence ^^) and until Procs get there my HP is already down more than half and they're too late to protect me. So in response to your suggestion for the amount of hp/def in my opinion it's way too low if you get ganged on by 20 Caps/Procs at the same time. So maybe Oro's suggestions for HP and what not are too much but yours aren't enough either. Something in between will work then.

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    +1 on this suggestion o.o

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    If will get implemeted ,and i hope in the future we will see many builders ^^

    and +1 to the ideea

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