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    Default Honor after 20 HR

    So there are 2 suggestions:

    1)Increase the Honor capacity to 2,147,483,647
    What will it give?:
    -You'll still be 20 HR
    -It will not give any bonus
    -If you'll PK or Craft with Honor your HR will still be 20 thus it will be still possible to use 20 HR title

    2)Reset
    Wanted to suggest this long time ago (back in 2011, but as...oh whatever).
    So let me explain, check the picture:

    As you can see I added "Grade" there, when a player will reach 2.000.000.000 Honor it will increase by 1:

    When increased it resets the Honor Point counter to zero (same as HR).
    What will it give?:
    -It will still be possible to use 20 HR title
    -Your overall Honor (for top Guilds, Players) will be counted as your current "Honor Point"+"Grade"*2.000.000.000, in other words your Honor will not be gone.
    -There is no limit (2b is more than enough xDDD) for Grade
    -You'll start getting honor same as 0 HR player and so on (same goes for WEXP=>Honor)

    And there are 2 more points I leave up to dev's:
    -Bonus from Grade, I'd say it should give something like:
    1. +1 all skill amp
    2. +2 all skill amp +1 crt dmg
    3. +3 all skill amp +2 crt dmg +1 amp resist
    4. +4 all skill amp +3 crt dmg +2 amp resist +1 dmg resist
    5. +5 all skill amp +4 crt dmg +3 amp resist +2 dmg resist
    6. (p.5)+1 to all, and so on.
    -How Grade will encounter with PK, craft when 0 Honor Point will left (there are 2 options):
    1. It will fall down (from 2=>1, from 1=>0), the penalty will be minused from 2b Honor and the resulting number will be the Honor Point amount which will appear. (example 1 Grade 0 Honor [-1k honor for craft] will result as 0 Grade 1.999.999.000 Honor)
    2. It will not be possible to craft anything and your honor will not decrease (or will go in minus) from PK.

    I'd appreciate if any mod will add a poll to this thread with options:
    1)Increase the Honor capacity to 2,147,483,647
    2)Reset
    3)Neither

    Meanwhile pls vote for 1 of the three options above and leave a sensible reply if you vote for 3rd option, thx.
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    +1 to first part of suggest(1)Increase the Honor capacity to 2,147,483,647)
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    People dont got hr 20,so i dont see the reason for add new honour titles...U're happy coz u got hr 20 and wanna make honour 30 ? ;\
    (Not all)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCaly View Post
    People dont got hr 20,so i dont see the reason for add new honour titles...U're happy coz u got hr 20 and wanna make honour 30 ? ;\
    (Not all)
    Your information is outtdated. At the moment there are more and more people hitting hr20. I like the idea of the honour capacity increase. I do not understand why till that number though? Why not make the capacity a huge load bigger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillinEye View Post
    Your information is outtdated. At the moment there are more and more people hitting hr20. I like the idea of the honour capacity increase. I do not understand why till that number though? Why not make the capacity a huge load bigger?
    Because 2,147,483,647 is the maximum value for a WORD data type. And changing the type will take a whole lot more effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillinEye View Post
    Your information is outtdated. At the moment there are more and more people hitting hr20.
    well yea, they've been playing here for like 3years or above and spent millions of wexp beads. if thats what it takes to get to class 20 then i wonder how "EASY" would be if this idea gets approved,.

    what to do next after u reach class 20?? get a life and quit cabal, cos im not spending millions of alz and years of my life jst to get an "Imaginary title"..

    To all people who wants this idea, Gudluck to you and in real life

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCaly View Post
    People dont got hr 20,so i dont see the reason for add new honour titles...U're happy coz u got hr 20 and wanna make honour 30 ? ;\
    (Not all)
    Hmm quite a lot ppl got it for some time (including me), and besides there won't be HR 30, and mega-imba-title, read suggestion.
    Same as not all lvlup till 180 (190 in a short time), not all farm XXXXbillion alz for XXamp set or XXdmg set, etc., then why don't you whine about inc. lvl capacity or Swamp scrolls or new item - charm?
    Don't like - vote for neither.
    Quote Originally Posted by lexanima8 View Post
    well yea, they've been playing here for like 3years or above and spent millions of wexp beads. if that's what it takes to get to class 20 then i wonder how "EASY" would be if this idea gets approved,.

    what to do next after u reach class 20?? get a life and quit cabal, cos im not spending millions of alz and years of my life jst to get an "Imaginary title"..

    To all people who wants this idea, Gudluck to you and in real life
    Haven't ever bought WEXP bead, BB+ bead, Premium and other thing to increase WEXP income (isn't worth of that for only WEXP, IMO)[event beads and presents not counted].
    That's your decision let other ppl to make their own one.
    Ok let me explain for you ppl:
    1)The first suggestion will leave 20 HR title after you lose few k Honor, it's annoying to farm XXX mobs each time you PK or craft, I think everyone will agree with me on that, don't you?
    It won't give free honor, power or smth (why can't it be few honor more, even if it will not be counted in top players/guild, you know ppl do kill mobs finish dungeons and so after 20 HR also), not a single disadvantage (I can't imagine why someone could be against it, the only possible point - the person has a grudge against me)
    2)The second suggestion is mostly the "Never ending story" (that's what actually MMORPG always was, ofc until it will be closed), in some other games there are XXXXXX max Upgrade when the highest Upgrade of weapon on all server after 5 years is 50, some got no limit for Lvl (reset of lvls after reaching max with some bonus for this), etc.
    This suggestion will give pretty the same, I think everyone will agree that even reaching 100 Grade sounds impossible (1000 for sure, Cabal will be closed for that time, or even if not - the owner of char will die xD "char as a legacy" ), and the bonus is quite nothing for the effort to reach it, or someone disagree?(And without some kind of bonus it is pretty senseless) Then why not? It won't take a lot of time to be implemented (could be done for few hours by 1 programmer).
    The only disadvantage (might be for someone) I can think that someone can see in it - the fact that 1 person can get more Honor than a Guild of let's say 5 ppl with 20 HR, that's all (but if to be honest it's pretty easier for 5 ppl that play a lot less than a single one).
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    Learn wexp for 190.Hr 20 is enough.When 90% from server get it,maybe then u can request more honour rank...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCaly View Post
    Learn wexp for 190.Hr 20 is enough.When 90% from server get it,maybe then u can request more honour rank...
    1. This is not request - this is suggestion.
    2. There are 3 options in my suggestion, neither of them increases HR.
    And thx, I've found out today (logical conclusion from your words) that 90% of server are 180 lvl.
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    I don't really see the point of the grade system but I like the idea of putting a higher limit on the honor so you won't fall down to HR19 when crafting etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by FireflyX View Post
    I don't really see the point of the grade system but I like the idea of putting a higher limit on the honor so you won't fall down to HR19 when crafting etc
    I agree with Firefly here. However, with the new craft system that might be comming up at ep9, according to Cursed, there might not be any honour left from crafting. So it would only be for PK. Might be something to take in account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillinEye View Post
    I agree with Firefly here. However, with the new craft system that might be comming up at ep9, according to Cursed, there might not be any honour left from crafting. So it would only be for PK. Might be something to take in account.
    Yep, anyway they should at least fix a bug with PK then, if you PK Honor decrease title got auto-removed and you can't choose any other title, if you press to use 20 HR title it just gib DC xD
    That's pretty lame that you must relog in order to use title system, and if you login after DC you still can't use title ))) so you should relog (change chan doesn't work).
    I think it's easier just to inc limit cose they'll bring new bugs fixing that one

    Edited:
    And y forgot - even if you farm-back Honor up to 2kkk you still can't use any title (if you haven't relogged xD) so that relog is a must.
    So if you PK a player that is trying to take your spot you either left without title or you should relog and run back to spot with 19HR title.
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    I like both suggs.

    With grades, another possibility would be to do that same as with delevelling: G1, HP 0 -> G1, HP -1000.

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    -1. This system what have now is great no need change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I3anned View Post
    -1. This system what have now is great no need change.
    Pls read the suggestion before you vote. It is not 1 suggestion but 2in1, secondly if to think that you've minused for both (aka 3rd option - neither) then thx for "sensible" reply which simply doesn't describe why both suggestions are bad for Cabal.
    Quote Originally Posted by KAMIKADzE View Post
    1)Increase the Honor capacity to 2,147,483,647
    2)Reset
    3)Neither

    Meanwhile pls vote for 1 of the three options above and leave a sensible reply if you vote for 3rd option, thx.
    If you want to minus this thread and have no idea how your minus is related to the idea then take a 5 min to think on some bad aspect which will be brought along with those suggestions and share with us, otherwise it just looks like minus is not for the suggestion...
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