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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuisa View Post
    Another problem, if in party dung (ft2/MO) we use bloody+bm3, the FA (if there is any) MUST heal us, and this is of greater dmg lost for party. Since FA does MUCH more dmg that the WA.

    Its stu.pid for a FA to heal a WA, if the FA does 1.5-2 x times more dmg than the WA. Better the FA let him die and hit the boss :O

    That why i find it stu.pid to give FA (supposedly supporter class) a stronger bm3 than WA (the supposedly damage dealer).

    As conclusion,

    I think in Ep8+ we must consider WA as support class (for providing fury/morale/panic) and other class as damage-dealers/tankers.

    Lets compared on the overall all classes wrt WA.

    WI bm2 outdamage WA bm2/bm3
    FA bm3 outdamage WA bm2/bm3
    FS bm3 outdamage WA bm2/bm3
    BL bm2 outdamage WA bm2/bm3
    FB bm3 outdamage WA bm2/bm3

    therefore damage-wise, WA is the weakest class.

    P.S: If im wrong, please correct me. What i written above is just my OPINION. thks

    P.S2: LOL, "stu.pid" is censored now??
    I do agree that its kind of dumb for an FA to waste time healing somebody who has much less dps,

    but from personal experience, I actually feel like I have to heal much much less than I did before the update.

    Root + darkness + Sharpshooting (FA -3 range synergy) is a very nice defensive combination

    In that respect, FA and FB are still support class. And Wa might not be the most DPS, but they sure do still have more survival than an FA does, even with the lessened vamp, you'll still last longer than an FA. Also: FA who have agro will not survive as well as a WI in bm2 did , we can't blink away

    And in terms of least damage, in some fast paced dungeon, a lot of people I know use both bm2 and bm3, so they will never wait for a bm to cool down. BL, WI, and WA, have this luxury. FB, FS, and FA bm2 are too horrible to alternate between.

    FB, FS, and FA bm2 have always been horrible, but I don't think people made such a big deal out of it, at least not as much as people are complaining about low dps bm3 now... take your bm3 with a grain of salt; just like always, every class has its pros/cons and different niches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy View Post

    FB, FS, and FA bm2 have always been horrible, but I don't think people made such a big deal out of it, at least not as much as people are complaining about low dps bm3 now... take your bm3 with a grain of salt; just like always, every class has its pros/cons and different niches.
    FB/FA/FS complains less, because they STARTED the class with knowledge on the situation (im sure they complain even much less now xD). I played FS too (for 3years+) and quited to make WA, for more dmg.

    Im sure most players started WA for becoming TANKERS and DAMAGED DEALERS, now bm3 changed the phylosophy of classes (dmg dealers became support xD, support became dmg dealers :P etc etc).

    And we, the WARRIORS, are DISAPPOINTED with the class. This is not what we farmed for these 5years...
    I think cuz of this we have the right to complain and whine :P. The game broke our hope (of the class)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy View Post
    I do agree that its kind of dumb for an FA to waste time healing somebody who has much less dps,

    but from personal experience, I actually feel like I have to heal much much less than I did before the update.

    Root + darkness + Sharpshooting (FA -3 range synergy) is a very nice defensive combination

    In that respect, FA and FB are still support class. And Wa might not be the most DPS, but they sure do still have more survival than an FA does, even with the lessened vamp, you'll still last longer than an FA. Also: FA who have agro will not survive as well as a WI in bm2 did , we can't blink away

    And in terms of least damage, in some fast paced dungeon, a lot of people I know use both bm2 and bm3, so they will never wait for a bm to cool down. BL, WI, and WA, have this luxury. FB, FS, and FA bm2 are too horrible to alternate between.

    FB, FS, and FA bm2 have always been horrible, but I don't think people made such a big deal out of it, at least not as much as people are complaining about low dps bm3 now... take your bm3 with a grain of salt; just like always, every class has its pros/cons and different niches.

    I totally agree with you Cathy, the power of BM3 for FA's is truly amazing and I really hope GM's won't lower it, we can now kill bosses alot easier in BM3 when we go to the harder dungeons. I tested it in IC1 myself yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuisa View Post
    FB/FA/FS complains less, because they STARTED the class with knowledge on the situation (im sure they complain even much less now xD). I played FS too (for 3years+) and quited to make WA, for more dmg.

    Im sure most players started WA for becoming TANKERS and DAMAGED DEALERS, now bm3 changed the phylosophy of classes (dmg dealers became support xD, support became dmg dealers :P etc etc).

    And we, the WARRIORS, are DISAPPOINTED with the class. This is not what we farmed for these 5years...
    I think cuz of this we have the right to complain and whine :P. The game broke our hope (of the class)
    The classes have changed, but they are still relatively balanced. Some are more op than others, this is true, but the difference between the op'd and the weak, is not any bigger than it was when there was only bm2.

    Being a tanker and damage dealer don't have to go hand in hand. FA and FB are the biggest glass-cannons there are.

    WA have other niches that the other classes can't fill. Take it in stride


    Quote Originally Posted by clausRO View Post
    I totally agree with you Cathy, the power of BM3 for FA's is truly amazing and I really hope GM's won't lower it, we can now kill bosses alot easier in BM3 when we go to the harder dungeons. I tested it in IC1 myself yesterday.
    And GM's have no control over the mechanics of the game. The developers do, and it is all tested on the Korean ITS. You can read the patch notes, and see that the stats, synergies, and overall functionality of bm3 for each class has been changed several times. They picked this as the final product because they believe this way the best way to re-balance the classes. Anybody can complain about how they "think" the classes aren't balanced now, but the truth is the difference in power was greater before the update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy View Post
    The classes have changed, but they are still relatively balanced. Some are more op than others, this is true, but the difference between the op'd and the weak, is not any bigger than it was when there was only bm2.

    Being a tanker and damage dealer don't have to go hand in hand. FA and FB are the biggest glass-cannons there are.

    WA have other niches that the other classes can't fill. Take it in stride
    Well what is done is done.
    I just hope WA get its original status restored in the coming updates

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuisa View Post
    Well what is done is done.
    I just hope WA get its original status restored in the coming updates
    Come on Nuisa just enjoy the way Axe Destroyer looks and don't worry too much about the dmg difference, you WA are already too strong :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by clausRO View Post
    Come on Nuisa just enjoy the way Axe Destroyer looks and don't worry too much about the dmg difference, you WA are already too strong :P
    not anymore :P

    A FA with 500kk set soloes pluma 2sp while a 20b set WA fails
    (see my point )

    and ofc im enjoying the BM3 as is, but im really disappointed with it. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuisa View Post
    not anymore :P

    A FA with 500kk set soloes pluma 2sp while a 20b set WA fails
    (see my point )

    and ofc im enjoying the BM3 as is, but im really disappointed with it. :P

    Yeah I know what you mean but they did balance the powers alot and remember how FA was only the healer ? it's funny how they became the tankers now since they basically hold the tank in their arms LMAO

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    Well we have the good old dps raping bm2 as for bm3..... in dungs where u can sustain bloody i guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuisa View Post
    A FA with 500kk set soloes pluma 2sp while a 20b set WA fails
    (see my point )

    and ofc im enjoying the BM3 as is, but im really disappointed with it. :P
    As for FA im really curious to see it, if bm3 makes FA solo pluma in 2sp...holly shi*
    As for WA, it doens't fail pluma 2sp with ~20b set, i'd say even with less, WA still has rlly good bm2 at least.

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    Fa k IIIII NCSOFT why you made WA bm3 so failed???? what are you do?
    omfggg epic cabal xD bm2" in ep2 was FB over failed now bm3 WA over failed why you can"t made that all Chars made the SaME DMG omfggggggggggggggggggggggg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bladec123 View Post
    Fa k IIIII NCSOFT why you made WA bm3 so failed???? what are you do?
    omfggg epic cabal xD bm2" in ep2 was FB over failed now bm3 WA over failed why you can"t made that all Chars made the SaME DMG omfggggggggggggggggggggggg
    You what? XD

    I'm sure you didn't complain when WA BM2 was strong and FB BM2 sucked, now you want all chars to have same damage? LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by konhoy View Post
    You what? XD

    I'm sure you didn't complain when WA BM2 was strong and FB BM2 sucked, now you want all chars to have same damage? LOL
    Maybe he meant "NO COMMENT ESTSOFT" makes sense after all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bladec123 View Post
    Fa k IIIII NCSOFT why you made WA bm3 so failed???? what are you do?
    omfggg epic cabal xD bm2" in ep2 was FB over failed now bm3 WA over failed why you can"t made that all Chars made the SaME DMG omfggggggggggggggggggggggg
    Because they want to annoy people like you who thought they were big and strong when you had the strongest bm2 of all classes... all over now up the FA's !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by clausRO View Post
    Because they want to annoy people like you who thought they were big and strong when you had the strongest bm2 of all classes... all over now up the FA's !!
    WA never had the strongest BM2 of all classes. Wizards do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnasher View Post
    WA never had the strongest BM2 of all classes. Wizards do.
    Reminds me of this :


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    Just saying: before the update, WA, BL, and WI all had great bm2 and could easily 2 bar pluma. FB, FA, and FS needed double the gear to do that.

    Now: Every class can 2 bar Pluma. All my friends that I run ft2 and MO with can 2 bar Pluma, and our gear isn't that dissimilar from each other.

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    Guess I am one of few that likes WA's bm3

    I use: ABAA->ABAA->BAAB->ABAA+BAAB->repeat

    seems decent in solo play and beats my bm2 + bloody

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    ABAA x2 BAAB x1 > special
    seems working better

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    as in stacking all three together? I thought making them fast one after another would be good but will test more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyan View Post
    as in stacking all three together? I thought making them fast one after another would be good but will test more
    They don't only stack, as they give more stats, for ex 2x abaa gives 7cr/7max cr & 30cd.

    Quote Originally Posted by polinadk View Post
    ABAA x2 BAAB x1 > special
    seems working better
    Yep as for me, also seems to be the best combo for solo.

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    I'll totally stay at WA, but i just hope in futured updates the WA will get just a little better. if i can read here BM3 is kinda same damage as in BM2, + less leech? ... what's the point of using BM3 then?
    I think i'm glad that i didn't spend any alz on BM3 yet. only used daily and Minesta drops so far.
    Though i don't have BM3 yet D:

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