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    Any tips on how i can improove my time or amount or relog?

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    Give me record program and ill make a vid for you .
    Come on now daantje link it xp.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NikkyNicole View Post
    Give me record program and ill make a vid for you .
    Come on now daantje link it xp.
    I Used fraps.

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    Talk less in guild chat so you can make longer combos .
    As around 1:25 you didn't even make a combo because you were talking.

    On further aspects, I don't know much about HV myself, I'll let others comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillinEye View Post
    Talk less in guild chat so you can make longer combos .
    As around 1:25 you didn't even make a combo because you were talking.

    On further aspects, I don't know much about HV myself, I'll let others comment.

    Well ye you are right on that point, but alsi im Guild master so it's my job to help my members <3
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    Ok. Firstly, never record your sub pass. You've censored it, but: Now everyone knows its lenth. Even if it randomizing after every enter everyone saw which numbers positions you pressed. Random boards have only 5-6 different positions. So it is only 6-10 tries and your subpass broken. To block acc you need to fail 20 times remember it. First tip for you: change your sub pass as soon as you can.

    Secondly, there is no need to kill all monsters. At start you need to kill only 1 Leaf. Then dash away from them and kill only 1 of 2 Mosquitos. Also Hazardous Zards are totally no needed to kill. Only snakes. Save your hp post. I kill all mobs only for exp.

    You have pretty nice luring. Keep it on! Good luck with drops!

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    Oh i didn't knew about that sub pass, changed already.
    Hmm, thought all needed to be killed >.< tho i might keep doing that for EXP ^^. gives me ~3% per run.
    Gotta look on that luck for drops now i'll try to find it somewhere, maybe in the hidden mantis dung

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    There isnīt much to do better except making 180. 170/179 -> 180 is a huge difference in DMG and DMG taking.

    Tried also everything possible and kinda have the same time with under 180.

    Also we suck now since everyone seem to have higher DPS with BM3(thus more leech) than WA either BM3 or BM2.


    You can just do better NOW, if you spam Fury pots like every nup with BMA for time-seeking.


    Also many just claim that they do it under 10 min without Evasion Pots/relog or Fury Pots but reality looks different and you will never see vids of them propably.
    Last edited by Passion; 25-06-2012 at 10:18.


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    Answering your question, yes you can improve your time. There now it depends if you spam hv or if you just do 1/2 runs. Normally i do not use bm at first mobs, coz i normally do 5/6 hv in row, and waiting a nice SP roll ins't the best solution if you don't want loose time dancing. Appart this you can improve your time, imo, in this situations: combo at toads takes more time than combo first mobs coz they aren't easy to lure, I cast bm3+bs at bridge and kill all toads, then go for boss and panic ofc, ext and go kill next mobs. At last 3 forms i saw on your videos you making 1bm+1bm well imo this is total waste of time, i do first 2 forms with bm2+bs+panic at first, kill snake go 2nd form hit if there is any time left of bm and ext and kill it, only here you will save 1min+. Last form as normal is a bma, usually i use an evasion pot since i craft them for myself so it takes me only a bma for 3rd form. All in all doing it in this run makes me use 6sp total, with arionell i finish with 2 sp wich is quite nice, also it takes me ~10min per run. Hope i helped you, test it and if you see something bad/better to add just say


    @Edit: just made an hv hard, coz saw ur dmg on your vid...do you have any rune? stats ( str, dex, int) atack, amp, cd? coz well in combo/bm2 you are making 1.5k dmg less than me, and you have 14/80-40/7 helm, im using 15/24 helm. at first form you making 7684 with bs+panic, i make there 9037. you are for sure missing runes.


    Quote Originally Posted by Passion View Post
    You can just do better NOW, if you spam Fury pots like every nup with BMA for time-seeking.


    Also many just claim that they do it under 10 min without Evasion Pots/relog or Fury Pots but reality looks different and you will never see vids of them propably.
    If you use Fury Pots/need relog for do hv Hard better you go back to Easy or Normal. Using Evasion in 3rd form is a personal choice, it depends if you wanna kill it in 2 sp or 3/4 (waste of sp imo)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Passion View Post
    There isnīt much to do better except making 180. 170/179 -> 180 is a huge difference in DMG and DMG taking.

    Tried also everything possible and kinda have the same time with under 180.

    Also we suck now since everyone seem to have higher DPS with BM3(thus more leech) than WA either BM3 or BM2.


    You can just do better NOW, if you spam Fury pots like every nup with BMA for time-seeking.


    Also many just claim that they do it under 10 min without Evasion Pots/relog or Fury Pots but reality looks different and you will never see vids of them propably.
    Did you mean other classes or only WA? Coz as BL I can do under 10 mins. Vids you can check in my broadcast chan.

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    Last boss seems to be so painful with any other class than BL.

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    Didnīt write that. Only relogging at last form and 2. sometimes if it misses too rare, pots I never buy any.

    Hardmode just gives too epic exp/ap.



    Under 10 min(only Mobs) and 5 AP/run... no Prem


    Quote Originally Posted by Deadmaster18 View Post

    @Edit: just made an hv hard, coz saw ur dmg on your vid...do you have any rune? stats ( str, dex, int) atack, amp, cd? coz well in combo/bm2 you are making 1.5k dmg less than me, and you have 14/80-40/7 helm, im using 15/24 helm. at first form you making 7684 with bs+panic, i make there 9037. you are for sure missing runes.
    You never check lvīs or^^? Also 49 Amp only...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Passion View Post
    You never check lvīs or^^? Also 49 Amp only...
    He is 177? 5 lvl's and 1 bslv gives 2k dmg more? im using 15/24 helm aswell, so im 200% sure he miss all or nearlly all runes, only way to loose so much dmg.

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    Blader is obvious, isnīt it...


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    my damage addnig runes are: only DMG rune, i put a lot AP in MCR and HP. also STR at lvl2.

    If i use BS on thoses bosses i will die for sure... ~ 2.5k+ hits
    I don't want to waste alz to this dung, ^^,

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    I ask me what u will do, if cabal change the relog function^^
    I never saw a HV video with so much relogs. Is not boring if u need to relog and to relog?

    Important if u want bit time save is always about the right start.
    If u kill more than 1 leaf, so will be more moscutter spawn. But u said u want more exp.
    But if iam honest, the last mobs there by the snake they give the highest exp. in that dg.

    What i can u tell is, try to get lvl 180, to push, s amp, attack, def, def rate, cd, hp absorb % and limmit up of the max in your runes. I think u self know it the dg give u nice Axp. But i think with some rune changes u will be bit faster.

    For the last boss u dont use BMA? I just saw it u use only bm2 and relog and relog again.
    Try it 1 run for the last boss a BMA. Maybe u life bit longer than normal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Special View Post
    I ask me what u will do, if cabal change the relog function^^
    I never saw a HV video with so much relogs. Is not boring if u need to relog and to relog?

    Important if u want bit time save is always about the right start.
    If u kill more than 1 leaf, so will be more moscutter spawn. But u said u want more exp.
    But if iam honest, the last mobs there by the snake they give the highest exp. in that dg.

    What i can u tell is, try to get lvl 180, to push, s amp, attack, def, def rate, cd, hp absorb % and limmit up of the max in your runes. I think u self know it the dg give u nice Axp. But i think with some rune changes u will be bit faster.

    For the last boss u dont use BMA? I just saw it u use only bm2 and relog and relog again.
    Try it 1 run for the last boss a BMA. Maybe u life bit longer than normal

    They will nerf it very soon anyways like IC1, since itīs too unbalanced for classes. Already now with relog some classes can do it without a bit of afford and others need evasion pots/skill/relog/over-gear.


    I did last form with BMA and still he hits like 3/4 of my life often.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Special View Post
    I ask me what u will do, if cabal change the relog function^^
    I never saw a HV video with so much relogs. Is not boring if u need to relog and to relog?

    Important if u want bit time save is always about the right start.
    If u kill more than 1 leaf, so will be more moscutter spawn. But u said u want more exp.
    But if iam honest, the last mobs there by the snake they give the highest exp. in that dg.

    What i can u tell is, try to get lvl 180, to push, s amp, attack, def, def rate, cd, hp absorb % and limmit up of the max in your runes. I think u self know it the dg give u nice Axp. But i think with some rune changes u will be bit faster.

    For the last boss u dont use BMA? I just saw it u use only bm2 and relog and relog again.
    Try it 1 run for the last boss a BMA. Maybe u life bit longer than normal
    Thanks alot for your feedback,
    I understand your point about your relogging, but as you see i don't have AoD like FS's, or Flee like BL's.
    BMa will maybe make a difference of 1, maybe 2 times less relogging, + i might lack of SP.
    Ye i'm working on my runes,

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