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    A fugit micul ratoi...

    I have to say that I really understand how Ratza is feeling and how tiring it is to stop the avalanche of bots nowadays. Ari is still a brave soul and keeps trying

    Sadly, bots are everywhere. And as soon as a game grows and starts making money, they swarm in and overrun it.

    I just wonder how long will ratza be able to stay away from Cabal? This isn't the first time he's quit. He's one of the hard-core skillers and as he said himself, loves to grind here.
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    damn another legend leaving
    not long till we see even more jumping ship

    Cabal is the titanic all was kickass till the iceberg collision
    i hope est soft are working on a anti bot script

    just a note to all idiots saying open new server


    YES SO BOTS CAN TOTALY OWN THE ECONOMY THANKS TO BOTTING CRAFT MATERIALS AND HAVING ALL THE ALZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niranya View Post
    - sadly we dont get so much feedback who is actually banned (i suggested they should do a weekly "detective report" which shows who was banned) or if they need better proof. Only thing i got so far (besides tickets) is a pm from [GM]Radagast who thanked me for my detailed reports.
    Agreed on that, Nir.
    A regular update on the "criminal statistics" would help those who are motivated to assist in reporting cheaters and botters...
    As it is now, lots of ppl get the perception (and maybe not only just the perception?) that nothing is being done at the botters/alz sellers problem.

    I kinda understand it is not as easy as lots of ppl think, but GM needs to communicate more efficiently with its helping users.
    -Faster response on the forum when troubles arise (like the premium issue)
    -More feedback on the "detective reporting" results, so ppl do not loose confidance their effort is not helping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niranya View Post
    Back to cabal, well i'm now playing for nearly a year and will play for several more years - i play it for fun, not to own anyone. Sure the botters/alz-shouters are annoying, but just keep them reporting - sadly we dont get so much feedback who is actually banned (i suggested they should do a weekly "detective report" which shows who was banned) or if they need better proof. Only thing i got so far (besides tickets) is a pm from [GM]Radagast who thanked me for my detailed reports.
    btw what is the detailed report that you are talking about??
    in what consists this??
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    Offtopic:
    Since I have no other direct way of contacting you, Ratza, would it be possible to clear your PM box a bit. I want to send you some personal advice that you might appreciate. (Or PM me a place where I can send it to if you don't feel like doing the former, or of course, ignore me - no hard feelings then )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trancid View Post
    Offtopic:
    Since I have no other direct way of contacting you, Ratza, would it be possible to clear your PM box a bit. I want to send you some personal advice that you might appreciate. (Or PM me a place where I can send it to if you don't feel like doing the former, or of course, ignore me - no hard feelings then )
    Sorry about that ..

    As a Support Advisor i had 200 PMs max limit .. Now i have 50 ... and i had around 80 PMs already in the box

    You can PM me now.

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    I wish you the best man, you helped me and alotta players out very well.

    I hope someday this game won't be filled with bots as much as now
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    Ratza, I am one of the many players you helped... not a high level... not a respected player... Not a Famous player... Just one of those you helped, and play this game fairly...

    If it is your decision to leave, then we, fair players, respect and mourn that...Just wanted to thank you for all the help you provided, all the tips, all the guides, all the flames to noobs and botters around, And show you my respect for your work and dedication to this game and to all of us.

    Thank's for everything, We Wont forget you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keetsoone View Post
    I have no second when i wont use brains ... unlike u ...


    All i can say about what you got.

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    I can totally understande how u feel...
    Atm the situation doesn't look good but i realy hope it will change in the future...
    Bots are over running the channels but we can stop them, we need to report until the situation become better.
    Now with the new GM's the situation became more hopeful they are pretty often in-game and kick the alz sellers out.

    I will never give up Cabal is my favorit game and i realy hope u come back too..

    I wish u the best and good luck in real life.
    Rock on my dude

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    thanx ratza your the man
    you helped me start back up my client and stuff so many times and i had alot of help.. thank you bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by emodan View Post
    damn another legend leaving
    not long till we see even more jumping ship

    Cabal is the titanic all was kickass till the iceberg collision
    i hope est soft are working on a anti bot script

    just a note to all idiots saying open new server

    Brilliant words.

    Ratza, ............. =/

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    Goodjob GM's.

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    BB Ratza, every one will miss you!

    the road to the end of Cabal has begun...µ
    (guss what I start my game today and I got another BUG! haha, omfg!!!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AleXXX89 View Post
    i have 134k if i remember right... is this giving me the statute of a botter?
    Use the brain sometimes , even if it hurts.-RatzaTM

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    Farewell... i hope you find a other game/community that you will help

    Even if i have to admit that your reasons for leaving kinda ****** are, because you helped pretty much honest players. There may be some botuser, sooner or later they will be banned and those who get never caught... who cares, they make no difference.
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    Time changes, things changes.. everything will change some day or another. It is more the player who cannot accept these changes. Accept, adept and move on.
    2008, August 5th: RatzaTM left Cabal
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    Ratza, imho you have done alot for everyone here and for GM.... You gona be a real loss for us...
    Take care irl and maybe meet you in some other online game :P

    Cheers man
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    Let's not advertise other games, ok ?

    Otherwise you might find yourself having a vacation.

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    A Text Full of emotions

    bb hope you can find an another game

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    Quote Originally Posted by b3tt3nc0urt View Post
    btw what is the detailed report that you are talking about??
    in what consists this??
    I'll write everything which is suspicious, for example:
    • Doesn't react to (or blocked) say/whisper/buddy/party invite/trade.
    • Doesn't react to ksing mobs, doesn't react when mobs lured away - just keeps waiting for the only mob which respawns, or if no mobs left just stands around and does nothing, sometimes even doesnt react to mobs attacking him from outside his defined "hunting area".
    • Sometimes returns to the exact same location the user defined when activating the bot.
    • Doesn't react to pk-attacking him and bleeding him to near death
    • Doesn't react to pk-killing him
    • Stays dead on the ground for 3 mins when pked, or immediatly stands up again and attacks mobs even when dead and after 3 mins back to spawn.
    • Continues mob-hunting as if nothing happend when died
    • Doesn't use dash/blink to get to his spot again (after pk or after selling items at npc)
    • "Walking" over hills, looks like blinking but without animation
    • Bot is stuck at some place (for example trying to go to an npc or to attack a specific mob) and doesnt react to other mobs attacking him.
    • User is dashing extremly far (like 2 times dash)
    • Range-Pickuphack (picks up items in range 5-12) which is normally impossible


    With Server, Channel, Map, which mobs and if not clearly where with exact location (x,y as seen on mapwindow).

    Because they know i'll really make sure if someone is a bot i'll just write them a quick summary recently.
    bye, Niranya

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    Its a bad new for Cabal EU, cya next time, game or i dunno

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    Quote Originally Posted by RatzaTM View Post
    Hello community,

    First of all, i would like to say that i am sorry for what i will write below, but in the last days, the pressure (on myself) and the amount of work (related to Cabal) has been unbearable, and because of this i write the following.

    I hope i will not get judged by players, since you are in no position to judge me, only God does that.. I just hope that you will understand the gravity of this situation.

    Regarding the issues that have flooded the Cabal Community/Gaming in the last weeks.

    If you have the tendency to say : Why should i do the GM work , why am i paying them , why aren't they banning the botters / cheaters , read below.


    One morning , a ****** virgin decides he doesn't have time to farm in Cabal, nor does he have the luck to find good drops.

    So in his frustration, he decides to start programming a bot. Either because he wants to prove how good he is at creating cheats/hacks, how he owns INCA for bypassing GameGuard, or because he has a grudge on some players and wants to pawn them without farming ... he decides to create a software that would do these things for him.

    My question comes now ... Why did the hack have success ? Because there are many kids/*****s/lame gamers that play games to be UBER best , to beat the crap out of the top players, to have godly gear , own everything and be known all over the server as pownators. (yes it was a small joke towards ownator's IGN )

    And after 6 months of owning (or maximum 1 year) they realise : why have i done that ? I have to go to high-school now (since i'm a teenager), i have to find a job, i don't have time to play anymore. And they quit Cabal.

    In the meantime, people that play this game to relax and enjoy 1 or 2 hours a day of free time .. come home and see these brainwashed kids bot their way around and cheating just so that they become the best.

    This is where the problem appears. The bot creator, has most likely gave up on playing by that time. He is out of the picture, but each day, a new kid comes up and says : Hey, i know they had a way of using cheats .. let me try it .

    In the meantime, the fair players still play the game and try to have fun (which is hard since the prices go up so fast, due to the increasing amount of players that buy alz on sites).

    What happens here is this : Instead of paying 10Euros a month to GM.com, they pay 10Euros to GM.com, they pay an additional 50Euros or whatever the fee is for hundreds of millions alz in-game (made with bots). That's 6 times more cash then if you payed for premium only and Blessing Beads + and started farming alz.

    This is an evolving process. More and more people, farm alz for sites using bots, the bots become popular, the sites sell the money back to in-game ****** players .. and the process evolves.

    More and more people start thinking of this application as a way of making real money, just because some retardo kid is not happy with his items and wishes to spend mommy's real money on alz.

    In the meantime, people look for other games when they see there is no turning back from this. It's easier to quit something than to fight it.

    Last night, i got a message on X-Fire from an unknown dude .. with a random name (something like aswfegfdgf). He wanted to thank me, because he found the solution to his crashes in my guides, and now he can happily relog on Cabal and farm using bots and sell alz. He especially wanted me to know that i helped them also, therefore supporting alz sellers and such.

    After i told him some kind words , i couldn't help but wonder : How many botters did i help get back in-game ...

    Basically, what i did was unwillingly ruin my joy of playing this game, and many other's too .. by helping botters get back in-game. I felt like crap and guilt is still something that i feel when i think about it.

    Therefore, i have something to ask you .

    If you have any trace left of common sense, if i ever helped you get in-game, if you love to play the game for what it is and not to compare your e-penises in PVPing .. if you love to combo instead of using speedhacks, if you have friends that play this game and you like to spend time with them, if you think about the future of this game, I BEG OF YOU : STOP USING HACKS/BOTS.

    You are ruining the game, kids, you don't have anything to prove you know, besides negative feedback, there is nothing that you can recieve from this game if you cheat .

    Whatever happened to playing a game FOR FUN ! Is this how you have fun ? Paying electric bills by thousands, when you are out having real fun ?

    Did you ever think that maybe some people don't go out, don't have friends like you do .. so they stay and chat with guildies and have fun ? (and no, i'm not talking about myself)

    WELL WHILE YOU ARE HAVING FUN OUT IN DISCOS/BARS/etc, YOUR BOT IS RUINING HIS FUN !


    I decided to give up on helping a community that doesn't understand a simple fact . You are wasting precious time playing this game . You will make it die eventually if you continue using cheats , and then you , as a parasite that you are , you will find a new game and start cheating there too ..

    I feel nothing but disgust when i think about people like this that enjoy cheating . Only a ****** creature would feel joy at this ..

    I have only one thing to say before i quit helping this community and start looking for a new game :

    Pray to God that i don't find out your IP addresses ... I will make sure your PC will not work again for quite some time ... That way , maybe you will have a taste of your own medicine ... You won't let us play a good game for what it is (A SIMPLE GAME) then i will make sure you don't use your PC at all.

    GROW UP ! STOP USING CHEATS ! It will not bring you any good in that pathethic life of yours ... And if you consider yourself so evil and enjoy doing this, i think your parents forgot the beat the crap out of their ****** kid, or you are just too spoiled to think about such things. I can't wait for you to grow up and reach real life .. where cheating is punished far more severely than this simple game.

    Have fun with your freaking game, i hope you're happy about what you achieved, i am moving on now, trying to find a game where i don't find people that think like you do, you lousy cheaters.

    To the other players , fair players that try to help the GMs and catch all cheaters : I am sorry for helping so many idiots relog back in the game, it wasn't my intention , i only wanted to do good, instead of supporting cheating *****s.


    If you consider this flame, you can safely delete it . But i am 100% positive that you think the same way about this, even if you are a moderator, a GM staff representative, a casual player . The only difference is that you guys have to watch out what you post and how you post it ... but that doesn't mean you don't think like me. I have the guts to say it out loud, even if not in the nicest words (i cannot use nice words when i encounter such individuals).

    Peace out , enjoy (scavage) what's left of this game ..

    PS : Instead of being angry at the GMs , for not doing anything about this issue *which is false* , why don't you redirect that anger, find the home of those who started this wave of bots (they're your neighbours maybe) and go beat the crap out of him ...

    PS 2 : Any Moderator , with proper access to Group Control .. Please remove me from the Support Advisors group . I no longer have the desire to help these brats cheat their way in this game, and consequently, make my free time spent in this game a living hell.
    just i can draw my sign to below of that comment

    thnks
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    Unfortunately I have had to lock this thread (it is too prone to flames).I would like to offer my personal gratitude to Ratza and all the work he has done towards the community. Very few players have dedicated as much time to helping others and I know for a fact that there are many around who perhaps wouldn't have been able to have play CABAL without his guidance. For those who wish to show their gratitude I would suggest sending a private message.

    I won't use this thread to tackle the issue of botting. It has been raised many times in recent weeks and the community should know by now the work we are putting in to finding a solution. I understand that many players have reached their limit and have decided to move on, however for those who are willing to stick with the ride you will find brighter horizons in the not too distant future.

    To Ratza best of luck for the future. I can only echo the general consensus that you are a true hero of Nevareth and one that will be missed.
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