i just want to know wich class is better in pvp warriors or bladers?and if faced against each other wich is likley to win?
Warrior vs Blader
i just want to know wich class is better in pvp warriors or bladers?
All that matters is your equipment, level and skill level. All classes are quite balanced. You just have to choose the class you like the most...
It's more likely that the warrior will win, since whirlwind has better cool down than blade scud, and at higher lvls, the first to cast second g.master is the winner.. But it's very tight.
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Don't need to use 2 G.master to win against Warrior. Just need enough amp and one G.Master is enough.Originally Posted by Cyndi
Tell that to Force shielders or Force bladers(not much but still weaker then the rest).All that matters is your equipment, level and skill level. All classes are quite balanced. You just have to choose the class you like the most...
And btw could every1 just stop that"all classes are balanced" cuz they are not(wiz and archer>rest>fs).
Back to topic chances are like 50-50 but if you say that both have same gear,lvl,ranks etc than propably WA would win(blader need to count on luck WA dont.)
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maybe,but a blader can stun,and if u get stunned,u loose a sec,wich makes bladers cast g.m earlier.
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Not true about 2nd gm, neither class need a 2nd gm and can kill faster than a gm can cool down.
You just need to know how to build a pvp combo.
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as much as i can see they are balanced but there is a thing whit FS dono whats the class good for well FB has realy nice debuffs which make him balanced
atleast thets my opinion
[Naids] [lv 121] [Force Blader] [Completer/Master]
Classes are not balanced that is something everyone know.
As far as pve is concerned every class has their pros and cons.
As far as pk/pvp goes it is a matter of rank,gear and base level.
But once people get to the same gear, max level then it is a question of class balance. And as far as my experience can tell, in 1 vs 1 with experienced pvp people who use the right pvp combo and the right pvp gear the classes roots differences and skills kicks in once again. I will be brief but basically every kickass gear that you can have on a mixed class like fb/fs will be much more efficient on a pure classes ( wiz/fa/blader/war ). As far as I am concerned and with my own experience all I can do with my FB 150 ( very well geared ) in group or party can be done with my blader 140 ( a bit less "goodly" geared ) in a much more efficient way. Brief example to illustrate it : in VC , my fb well geared ( eof+7, 31% sword amp, board, bofs +4 etc.... ) will die a lot more and will have a harder time to solo bosses ( might sound surprising but I will explain further ) and to finish the dungeon than with my blader 140 ( same gear but with 10% amp less because battle gloves and mithril orb sword amped can't be used on a blader :P ).
Now I will detail why : sometimes the debuff don't change jack vs a boss in there why ? Because my gm deals 4k dmg on a critical on a boss ( with all the debuffs that are useful maxed : debuff hit rate, enervation, lowering defense ) and because of this inner difference of classes ( I remind you 10% more amp and debuffs on top of that on my FB ) I take more time killing the bosses than my blader therefore taking more risks of being hit consecutively ( ups and kissing the floor ). Bottom line when i take 5 mins to kill a single boss ( including every debuffs phase after breaking combo in order to "try" to stay alive ) I take 3 mins at most on my blader. Why would you say since "blabla class balance" ? Because my gmaster skill on blader with 10% less amp and no debuffs dishes 6 Hits at 1k each ( totalizing 6k vs 4k fully debuffed on fb ( 4 hits on gm ) ) therefore speeding things up and the kill of the boss which makes it so that there is less risks to be continuously hit ( and die ) within 3 mins than with 5 mins. Simple maths really but I assure you the practice verifies the theory :P. ( or more like my experience is talking for itself. ) I wont talk about the overpowered defense rate that blader get "by nature" which makes him dodge more without debuffing the foe than my fb on a debuffed foe. Crazy innit ?
One word : Reality.
I have load of examples but I will just talk about this one, otherwise I will write a novel.
As far as my experience and my view of fs goes, it seems that magic FS isn't gimped at all . As magic FS I mean impersonating a wizard ( getting around 800 + magic atack, eos +7 , bos +4, magic amp etc.... ) but with a overpowered defense making it basically a "Warrior mage" as my friend Trap would call it. And when i said not gimped i mean they do pretty well in both pvp/pk/pve you have no clue...
Anyway, I just wanted to illustrate and to give a quick glance at this so called "balance" cough cough that some people like to throw at others like a mere statement " the game is balanced don't you see ? " ***... And to the bright people saying debuffing owns I will say that much : if you try to debuff in pvp while fighting a pure class experienced you are already dead. High level fight between very well geared and complete character barely last 7-10 secs ( and at 10 secs one is already dead by the way ). As for mobs hit rate/dodge rate it works wonder but I won't debate on that ( flee rate % blabla, odds and what not ). And for the other bright side of people brain YE I LEECH in pve on both character as much as I can so I can live longer... Enought said.
Last edited by Zoom; 06-10-2007 at 04:53.
If you succeed to stun any character in a duel I am sorry to say but :
1/you are out of the loop or
2/your opponent is even more out of the loop than you or
3/you don't fight the right person or
4/you don't know which skills to use in "combo" given that you know what "combo" is used for or
5/you don't know what real pvp is... or
6/you don't play any of the cabal versions and you made your own version or
7/you are a total noob but don't worry you will learn given the time or
8/your combo or the game or your connection lagged making you as useless as a baby during a duel because you broke combo ( this case of figure is likely to happen thanks to servers/programing skills ./gg )
Sorry for teasing but that's a fact : your statement is a joke however with regards to the reason #9...
Last edited by Zoom; 06-10-2007 at 05:16.
Back to the topic warrior and blader are very alike in term of efficiency in pvp. Extreme builds would rape on both classes but I would say that on the long run a warrior with flat 950 atk and def and around 2.8k hp+ would probably rape a "critical relieying" blader most of the time and any other class ( 100% isn't realistic due to many varifying parameter ( critical working wonders at times for example )) and to be honest that kind of warrior would be unkillable/god.
really?if i stun u once with my combo, ur dead.calling me noob,becuz im using the best combo for my class doesnt help u too much.mr expert let me tell u something,every1 can get stunned.maybe ur so pro,that u never managed to stun some1? maybe u should try that,before being an a$$hole.thx
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Dude, stun doesn't do crap in PvP D: Only noobs gets stunned in PvP
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You can stun peeps who run at u to start or peeps who dont combo, or if you hit stun after you just broke there combo.
An ongoing victim of Godwins Law
Dude the day u stun me is like the day i m afk while i pressed ok for accepting the duel. Only noobs get stunned in duel, only no real pvp knowledge people would rely on such a fantasy.
Combo exists for a reason with its advantage/default and when you know how to re-target and use right skills at the right time particularly when you duel then believe me the chance you stun someone is 1% ( and i m being large ). As for the running or distance start in a duel it is pretty dull and unfair :P and I wouldn't really mind to be honest if dash in combo was working like it used to... But as it is now it would be like "hey why don't i shoot you 5 holes in your pretty body before you come close eh ? " not much sense or interest in that kind of duel.
And another thing, I believe you should pvp real pvpers in your server because you play on mercury otherwise I would so make you a demo of what is " a normal pvp" on Mars. Thanks from mr Expert I am an a..hole.
Last edited by Zoom; 07-10-2007 at 15:08.
that hurt my eyes lol
ive still got some way to go with my blader only lvl 50
but blader id say could win seeing as our crit rate is higher than warriors i need a higer lvl blader to confirm that cause im not cirtain :S
Last edited by basorios; 14-10-2007 at 15:21. Reason: Bad gramzor lol
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the thing is,maybe ur a great pvper,but there are ways to stun u.in this game everything can be done if u know how to do it.wich means if i cant stun u while ur in combo, all i have to do is,to break ur combo and make u loose target.wich can be done several ways,but i dont think i have to explain that...
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Playing Ninja Gaiden 2.
Warrior pwns Blader in pvp sorry to say,can you imagine what a warrior with a real nice critical set and a +10% crit rate+20% crit dmg weapon can do?
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Not always true. You just need good equip aswell otherwise you are doomed. It's not like i loose all the time to warriors, it just depends on who crits.
there are ways to stun me sure, but what if you cant stun me when you could? its just an endless spiral, if you roll out of my combo i just roll too.then pvp starts anew.
Yes ty, and a blader can do the same.
You dont need 2 gms, usually a gm crit then another skill game over.
I use a red os GS with crit rate in it deathblow helm aop rol and a rof+9.
I have 23% amp and I hurt like hell, the blader I know with almost identicla type of gear as me can kill me more than I can kill him, our hp is similar our amp is identical I have 5% more crit dmg on my items, and 80 more attack than him, however his gm crit is about 50 damage more than mine, with vital interefere amped up and a few other skills, the bladers dps is far superior.
However when we are both at about 33% amp it will switch as my fast skills like charge then out dps his, I would like to see what happens when he increases his attack as well.
So as you know my combo is charge > ww > charge > rising > spiral
And it kills as long as the gm crits otherwise I need charge > maybe another ww after if i am still alive.
An ongoing victim of Godwins Law
I have no word to describe it or to second that but if u can break me before 8.5 sec or 9.5 sec then u re welcome to try ( and as that guy says what you can do other people can too )
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