[ZDestiny]

I forgot to mention.. Wa got HP bug/cap. If correct any other classes don't.

Tested by many lvl 170 wa, with all possible hp buffs + hp pots. Example FB HP didn't get capped when he goes bm1 at aos boss when he is buffed.

[xMyPa19Nx]

Well I only wanted to let you guys know is that FS are very weak after the new skills came :X

[adnianeraregiN]

Originally Posted by ZDestiny

I forgot to mention.. Wa got HP bug/cap. If correct any other classes don't.

Tested by many lvl 170 wa, with all possible hp buffs + hp pots. Example FB HP didn't get capped when he goes bm1 at aos boss when he is buffed.

Can't get past 9999 HP? Poor you
Protip: Break HP Limit items!

[osh]

Originally Posted by xMyPa19Nx

Well I only wanted to let you guys know is that FS are very weak after the new skills came :X

what a surprise!

Thank you.

[ragnarokpt]

Originally Posted by Shatan

Cool Story Bro

Is that shoop or real? o.O

Originally Posted by Herflik

Whining is part of the game. Also you dont know what is whining actualy ,some people talk normaly and give arguments why some class need to be nerfed.

We are here to help the game become best ,have classes as much balanced as its possible. This suggestion forum wasnt made for nothing ,so use logic thinking or simply dont come here.

Also your quote selfown itself ,because on end it say we need to fight with them. And what you think we are doing?? We are fighting with owerpowered classes here ,to nerf them and kick their butt like that.

Other thing is ,runing from problems isnt a real gamer style of playing. If you wanna run rather than make this game perfect than resign from playing. Because one day you might run from fair play ,and start hacking like most people in this community.

Also something about ragnarokpt ,he only play the oped chars. He got WA and BL ,you think he can survive with some normal class?? :P

To be honest, I got more problems surviving with my warrior or even my blader then I had with my wizard. You cant really say much about me, when your the 1 who keeps whinning and whinning about everything that you cant kill or that you dont see your class doing.

You forget every single aspect about all classes. Your expecting to see people wearing "pijamas" and wielding little "toothpicks" owning a shitload of bosses, just like people that use a freaking huge sword and wear an armor thicker then titanium.

You have to STOP to think what your asking for. You forget that its not up to you to decide which class does what. Maybe the developers are doing what they've done till now because thats how it should be? Ever thought of that? Or do you just want to mold this into your own view of the game?

When you talk about balance, I only hear about this beating that, and that beating this. Completly wrong...

Each class is doing exactly what they should be, without mentioning some bugs or some small flaws (small as in 1 or 2 flaws)

Instead of actually being something ingame, you just ask for nerfs until every class shoots blanks with the exception of FB. Seriously, you even whine about wizards in bm2! What the hell?!

Unlike you, I (finally) picked a class and stayed with it. Im not gonna play other chars, just because their"underpowered" and because some noobs like you keep saying "ah op nub play mai char and com crai". I play what I want. I picked warrior a long time before you picked your FB. I didnt have any idea about OP bs at that time, and im not gonna start to care about that either. Op? Too bad, deal with it by making yourself better instead of making the others weaker...

Well what do you know, you really are a natural born debuffer, if you know what I mean...

[Shatan]

Originally Posted by ragnarokpt

Is that shoop or real? o.O

Real Rag :P

[xMyPa19Nx]

Originally Posted by Shatan

Real Rag :P

Are you happy with your FS ?? Just want to know from a person with a high lvl ^^

[Shatan]

Originally Posted by xMyPa19Nx

Are you happy with your FS ?? Just want to know from a person with a high lvl ^^

Well... its not so bad :P

[ragnarokpt]

Originally Posted by Shatan

Real Rag :P

Originally Posted by xMyPa19Nx

Are you happy with your FS ?? Just want to know from a person with a high lvl ^^

Originally Posted by Shatan

Well... its not so bad :P

This coming from the best FS on EU...

Huh huh....

xD

[adnianeraregiN]

Originally Posted by Shatan

Yeah, it's amazing what a few little Buffs can do, hm? ;P

[xMyPa19Nx]

Originally Posted by adnianeraregiN

Yeah, it's amazing what a few little Buffs can do, hm? ;P

Thats cause he is Shatan 0.o

Sounds scary lol


And what kind of items do you have Shatan ? Your my idol FS now cause I like the answers you give lolll

[Shatan]

Basic Stuff:

Mithril Blade Of Deathblow 20% Crit Dmg +6
Topaz Crystal Of Deathblow 40% Crit Dmg +7
Osmium Armourhelm Of Deathblow 36% Crit Dmg +7
Osmium Armoursuit Of Amp 7% Sword Amp 100HP +10
Shineguard Greaves Of Amp 7% Sword Amp +7
Shineguard Gauntlets Of Amp 7% Sword Amp +7
2x Bracelet Of Fighter +6
2x Force Regeneration Earring +7
Amulet Of Pain +5
Amulet Of Battler +8
2x Ring Of Luck +2
2x Crit Ring +2
Zero Black Board
X2 Blue Board
X3 White Board
Pet (1% sword amp, 5 attack, 30 HP, 3 DEF, 2% crit dmg )

Optional Stuff:

Shadowtitanium Boots Of Amp 7% Amp, 50 HP +7
Titanium Gloves 7% Amp 5 Attack +7
Osmium Armoursuit Of Will 240 HP +7
Osmium Armourboots Of Will 240 HP +7
Osmium Armourhelm 140 MP 10% Crit DMG ( pwnage vs Mana Freeze xD )

Skipped my Vamp Set tho since its not so important :P

[ragnarokpt]

Originally Posted by Shatan

Basic Stuff:

Mithril Blade Of Deathblow 20% Crit Dmg +6
Topaz Crystal Of Deathblow 40% Crit Dmg +7
Osmium Armourhelm Of Deathblow 36% Crit Dmg +7
Osmium Armoursuit Of Amp 7% Sword Amp 100HP +10
Shineguard Greaves Of Amp 7% Sword Amp +7
Shineguard Gauntlets Of Amp 7% Sword Amp +7
2x Bracelet Of Fighter +6
2x Force Regeneration Earring +7
Amulet Of Pain +5
Amulet Of Battler +8
2x Ring Of Luck +2
2x Crit Ring +2
Zero Black Board
X2 Blue Board
X3 White Board
Pet (1% sword amp, 5 attack, 30 HP, 3 DEF, 2% crit dmg )

Optional Stuff:

Shadowtitanium Boots Of Amp 7% Amp, 50 HP +7
Titanium Gloves 7% Amp 5 Attack +7
Osmium Armoursuit Of Will 240 HP +7
Osmium Armourboots Of Will 240 HP +7
Osmium Armourhelm 140 MP 10% Crit DMG ( pwnage vs Mana Freeze xD )

Skipped my Vamp Set tho since its not so important :P

gogogo aop+6 :P

[xMyPa19Nx]

Originally Posted by Shatan

Basic Stuff:

Mithril Blade Of Deathblow 20% Crit Dmg +6
Topaz Crystal Of Deathblow 40% Crit Dmg +7
Osmium Armourhelm Of Deathblow 36% Crit Dmg +7
Osmium Armoursuit Of Amp 7% Sword Amp 100HP +10
Shineguard Greaves Of Amp 7% Sword Amp +7
Shineguard Gauntlets Of Amp 7% Sword Amp +7
2x Bracelet Of Fighter +6
2x Force Regeneration Earring +7
Amulet Of Pain +5
Amulet Of Battler +8
2x Ring Of Luck +2
2x Crit Ring +2
Zero Black Board
X2 Blue Board
X3 White Board
Pet (1% sword amp, 5 attack, 30 HP, 3 DEF, 2% crit dmg )

Optional Stuff:

Shadowtitanium Boots Of Amp 7% Amp, 50 HP +7
Titanium Gloves 7% Amp 5 Attack +7
Osmium Armoursuit Of Will 240 HP +7
Osmium Armourboots Of Will 240 HP +7
Osmium Armourhelm 140 MP 10% Crit DMG ( pwnage vs Mana Freeze xD )

Skipped my Vamp Set tho since its not so important :P

Holy cow I think I will see those items in my dreams 0.o

[Sontaine]

Originally Posted by xMyPa19Nx

We FS have heal skill but it heals only 200 or 250 HP ???

For the lulz <_< And for Saving hp pots after pvp

And for edit all characters have a debuff skill but FS doenst...

Fa has hit rate reduce and 30 defense - ... WOW awesome debuff.
Wizard has - 30 attack... again WOW awesome debuff >_>
ok, got to admit, wa fb and bl got nice debuffs but who cares if i want to debuff i go and play an fb not an fs

A decent damage increase (of course we had a new buff not long ago, but that doesnt makes a lot of difference), maybe some usefull party buffs (or - like 10k threads already said - "buffing the current party buffs")

[xMyPa19Nx]

Originally Posted by Sontaine

For the lulz <_< And for Saving hp pots after pvp


Fa has hit rate reduce and 30 defense - ... WOW awesome debuff.
Wizard has - 30 attack... again WOW awesome debuff >_>
ok, got to admit, wa fb and bl got nice debuffs but who cares if i want to debuff i go and play an fb not an fs

A decent damage increase (of course we had a new buff not long ago, but that doesnt makes a lot of difference), maybe some usefull party buffs (or - like 10k threads already said - "buffing the current party buffs")

Its -200 Attack not 30

[LastHour]

Originally Posted by Herflik

Whining is part of the game. Also you dont know what is whining actualy ,some people talk normaly and give arguments why some class need to be nerfed.

We are here to help the game become best ,have classes as much balanced as its possible. This suggestion forum wasnt made for nothing ,so use logic thinking or simply dont come here.

Also your quote selfown itself ,because on end it say we need to fight with them. And what you think we are doing?? We are fighting with owerpowered classes here ,to nerf them and kick their butt like that.

Other thing is ,runing from problems isnt a real gamer style of playing. If you wanna run rather than make this game perfect than resign from playing. Because one day you might run from fair play ,and start hacking like most people in this community.

Also something about ragnarokpt ,he only play the oped chars. He got WA and BL ,you think he can survive with some normal class?? :P

@Sontaine, don't underestimate the FA - atk rate debuff on bosses, that can actually be a lifesaver for your party or if solo.

I survive with any class pretty well. I've played everything for at least a few TGs, PVE or PVP stuff a bit with everything but WA along with doing extensive tests for other things on each. Honestly after its all said and done I give huge props to the deveolpers for being able to balance a mmorpg as well as they did. [Most mmorpgs are HORRIBLY balanced and nowadays I actually can't see why its such an intense debate on cabal] The trade offs when you consider all things, the big pictures and not the minor aspects are very well balanced. [Things like TG/PVP/PVE and off/def power within those categories in relation to each other]

My only criticism is they haven't moved forward since episode 2 in producing a new map, level cap, skill ranks or bm or something of the sort besides just new dungeons. The belt idea is nice but I'd prefer seeing post-forcium or post-trans skill ranks to what will probably be a minor accessory boost.

Its also hard for you to probably see things from another classes perspective and in general it is for everyone. We're going to see our classes struggles but none of the other classes. We will always see other classes at their best like when their soloing bosses on youtube rather than dying 100 billion times in TG. When you look at things from that typical view of course other classes will look way OP. I used to Q.Q and debate how other classes were stronger than me too until I actually played them.

Your also an FB which happens to be second to none with good gear at 170. Rediculous bms, crit rate and damage along with an arsenal of punishing debuffs is nothing to be upset about. I know some of these things from also talking to notorious NA hackers, some of which have played all 6 classes at 170 in epic gear. [Epic being like 20% crit forci blade + 40% lapis crystal both +7 on fb, forci amp pieces, 40/7 helms, etc.] Trust me, a 170 fb is to be feared in the hands of a capable user.

[ragnarokpt]

Originally Posted by LastHour

@Sontaine, don't underestimate the FA - atk rate debuff on bosses, that can actually be a lifesaver for your party or if solo.

I survive with any class pretty well. I've played everything for at least a few TGs, PVE or PVP stuff a bit with everything but WA along with doing extensive tests for other things on each. Honestly after its all said and done I give huge props to the deveolpers for being able to balance a mmorpg as well as they did. [Most mmorpgs are HORRIBLY balanced and nowadays I actually can't see why its such an intense debate on cabal] The trade offs when you consider all things, the big pictures and not the minor aspects are very well balanced. [Things like TG/PVP/PVE and off/def power within those categories in relation to each other]

My only criticism is they haven't moved forward since episode 2 in producing a new map, level cap, skill ranks or bm or something of the sort besides just new dungeons. The belt idea is nice but I'd prefer seeing post-forcium or post-trans skill ranks to what will probably be a minor accessory boost.

Its also hard for you to probably see things from another classes perspective and in general it is for everyone. We're going to see our classes struggles but none of the other classes. We will always see other classes at their best like when their soloing bosses on youtube rather than dying 100 billion times in TG. When you look at things from that typical view of course other classes will look way OP. I used to Q.Q and debate how other classes were stronger than me too until I actually played them.

Your also an FB which happens to be second to none with good gear at 170. Rediculous bms, crit rate and damage along with an arsenal of punishing debuffs is nothing to be upset about. I know some of these things from also talking to notorious NA hackers, some of which have played all 6 classes at 170 in epic gear. [Epic being like 20% crit forci blade + 40% lapis crystal both +7 on fb, forci amp pieces, 40/7 helms, etc.] Trust me, a 170 fb is to be feared in the hands of a capable user.

Ill have to agree with you.

People mostly say stuff about A B or C being OP because they just look at the good 1's. They never look at the rest, that might actually prove that the class is indeed nerfed, in the end.