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Old 24-04-2008, 09:00   #221
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I donīt like it, that shop items can be sold... they should all be account binded, because to buy something with Cabalcash and sell it for alz is just another way to trade real money for alz, just another form of alzsellers for me...
Most items are already binded, but if they make boards all binded GM's cut themself in the fingers. Potential astral-board buyers that have no payment method available (remember, SMS and paypal are gone) or even dungeon entry cards (any of em) will not be able to get these anymore. Followed by the itemshop sellers not buying anymore, multi-account players not buying anymore (i transfer my items alot between my accounts), less income for GM's.

Added, the only difference betwen alz sellers and itemshopsellers, alz sellers sell property of someone else for other money. Items (money or virtual items) with itemshop sellers remain property of GM. Last case thus a win-win for GM.
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Old 24-04-2008, 09:23   #222
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Most items are already binded, but if they make boards all binded GM's cut themself in the fingers. Potential astral-board buyers that have no payment method available (remember, SMS and paypal are gone)
I know that some users have troubles with the avaiable payment method, but still, i think its not right.

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or even dungeon entry cards (any of em) will not be able to get these anymore.
Entry Cards?, everyone can farm them...

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Followed by the itemshop sellers not buying anymore, multi-account players not buying anymore (i transfer my items alot between my accounts), less income for GM's.
Multi-Account ... o.O ... if i remember correct, the terms of use 1.D says that you may create one Account, so Multi-Account is a violation of the terms... correct me please if i understood this paragraph wrong.
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Old 24-04-2008, 09:28   #223
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o.O ye that is a violation

or is it multiple characters?
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Old 24-04-2008, 09:38   #224
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Everyone who is registered in Cabal Official website can make game account, so every1 is able to make under one user name for cabal site few game accounts.
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Old 24-04-2008, 09:55   #225
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Reported BUG by players: Astral Bow Skill (used to summon Bow) for Force Archers should give Critical Rate %, but the testing showed the bonus from this skill is not applied.[/I]

THIS IS NOT A BUG. It is normal. The maximum possible critical rate is 50%.
So if the base crit rate is 5%, and the summon bow gives 10% more it should have 15% crit rate as base critt for FA, since they dont do much without summoning the bow. You say it is not applied and it is not a bug....what is it then? A feature?
Is this Microsoft or what?

If we include 2 RoL+2 we get to 45% crit rate for FA, only IF the crit rate worked, only 5% to crit cap. So the question is why doesn't it work?
Why dont you fix the summon astral bow skill text, saying we dont get that critt rate or delete that line about 10% more crit rate.
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Old 24-04-2008, 09:56   #226
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I donīt like it, that shop items can be sold... they should all be account binded, because to buy something with Cabalcash and sell it for alz is just another way to trade real money for alz, just another form of alzsellers for me...
Exactly.

Alz Sellers or Gold Sellers are using stolen credit card details for buying items in the shop. Then selling these items for Alz and the Alz for real money.

We have to deal with the fraudulent payments and must return the money but the Alz sellers are making their profit.

In the last year we lost over 60.000 Euros just because fraudulent payments. That was the reason why we stopped using to run payment systems like PayPal and also changed the items in the shop.

The money that we are loosing at Fraudsters by allowing to sell shop items is much higher as what we could earn here with honestly players.

Sad but true!
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Then they should make crit rate cap higher bcuz now its easy for everyone to reach 45-50% crit rate. Something like 70%
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So if the base crit rate is 5%, and the summon bow gives 10% more it should have 15% crit rate as base critt for FA, since they dont do much without summoning the bow. You say it is not applied and it is not a bug....what is it then? A feature?
Is this Microsoft or what?

If we include 2 RoL+2 we get to 45% crit rate for FA, only IF the crit rate worked, only 5% to crit cap. So the question is why doesn't it work?
Why dont you fix the summon astral bow skill text, saying we dont get that critt rate or delete that line about 10% more crit rate.
Allow me to ask why some people are not reading what I am posting even when it is in the same thread?

I already said that I just quoted Estsoft here and that we are still testing this issue. This was also confirmed by one of the testers in this thread: blackend. Also I said that this update is under testing at the moment and that the update notes can be change before it goes live.

Allow me to justify myself about missing things after the update went alive and not when we are still working on it.
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Entry Cards?, everyone can farm them...
You havent played lately? Droprate of most dungeons (party) have come to a nearly 0.00001% droprate. Only the stupid lvl75 solo seems still to drop often from Cannons in Fort ruina.

As for the multi-accounts, its not my fault 1 account can only hold 6 characters (<<< *suggestion hint hint*). In other MMO's i play its not uncommon i have 12 or more characters. As for the ToS, it only stay you 'may' make 1, nothing being said of a limit or sortlike

Nice explenation kru, makes sence

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Old 24-04-2008, 10:10   #230
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THIS IS NOT A BUG. It is normal. The maximum possible critical rate is 50%.

Since this is the first time that a post on the maximum critical rate has come directly from our GMs, I'd just like to ask one question. Does it apply to equips only or can it be increased with skills over the max? I'm talking about Crushing Blade, Art of Sniping, BL's critical rate in skills, FB's sword attack buffs.
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Old 24-04-2008, 10:23   #231
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You havent played lately? Droprate of most dungeons (party) have come to a nearly 0.00001% droprate. Only the stupid lvl75 solo seems still to drop often from Cannons in Fort ruina.
I know that the droprate is now low, but still there are enough cards around.

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As for the multi-accounts, its not my fault 1 account can only hold 6 characters (<<< *suggestion hint hint*). In other MMO's i play its not uncommon i have 12 or more characters.
And in other MMOīs is sometimes a limit 4... and?, you can make 6 characters per Server, more than enough.
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Old 24-04-2008, 10:28   #232
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Well, the soultion is "bind the items of Cabal shop". Yes, it's a solution, but what about real persons selling THEIR items to make Alz? Doesn't they deserve to do whatever they want with their items bought WITH their money?. That's just the easy way to make things, would be better another system wich may require more time and money. I'ts better to do things well.

Whatever, I'm sure they'll deal with it sooner.
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Old 24-04-2008, 10:31   #233
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The limit for buff critical rate is 25% and total limit is 50%.

And Estsoft finally confirmed that there is a bug with Astral Bow skill, now. The next challenge is to get it fix, now.

Besides of that, please keep the questions and discussions to the updat notes. Though I appreaciate new ideas about how to improve the game but they won't be a part of this update and I am worry that we loose the topic of this thread.

Which could be bad because as long as we are talking about the update we maybe can do some little changes before it goes live ...like we did it with the Bedding System yesterday.
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I donīt like it, that shop items can be sold... they should all be account binded, because to buy something with Cabalcash and sell it for alz is just another way to trade real money for alz, just another form of alzsellers for me...

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can the white board also be dropped by a monster?
Are you jealous?
Why canīt i sell shop items to make alz?
I donīt cheat anybody,its a honest sell
i give the item they give the money,whats so wrong about it?
And most items are account binded!

It is not their fault who has the chance to buy items from cash shop and then sell them who ever wants it,it is not our fault that you canīt buy items!

And in cc there items that are undropable like nation changer or hair kits and so on!

So donīt come here to compare us who pay a large amount of money every month to cabal with alz sellers!

We who buy cabal cash,keep the game going

SO SU!
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Then they should make crit rate cap higher bcuz now its easy for everyone to reach 45-50% crit rate. Something like 70%
wouldnt be that good. like how its now its very hard to beeing able to use 55 - 60% rate, as its only possible with max critical stuff. its more exciting, not many can reach that high rate (wich he can use) with enough dmg at the same time. rising the rate cap to 70% would be make alot too easy for all players, but i would more prefer rising cap bymyself with max critrate equip...
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And Estsoft finally confirmed that there is a bug with Astral Bow skill, now. The next challenge is to get it fix, now.
Ahh great news for all Archers of Nevareth
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Are you jealous?
no

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it is not our fault that you canīt buy items!
Did i said that i canīt buy them?, i just said, that i think that this is wrong for me, nothing more, nothing less

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So donīt come here to compare us who pay a large amount of money every month to cabal with alz sellers!
It is my fault that you use a large amount of money every month? :P

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We who buy cabal cash,keep the game going
Thatīs right and thank you all for this, but my opinion about selling Shopitems will not change.

EDIT: This was my last statement to shopselling in this topic, because i donīt want to fill it with offtopic...

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Are you jealous?
Why canīt i sell shop items to make alz?
I donīt cheat anybody,its a honest sell
i give the item they give the money,whats so wrong about it?
And most items are account binded!

It is not their fault who has the chance to buy items from cash shop and then sell them who ever wants it,it is not our fault that you canīt buy items!

And in cc there items that are undropable like nation changer or hair kits and so on!

So donīt come here to compare us who pay a large amount of money every month to cabal with alz sellers!

We who buy cabal cash,keep the game going

SO SU!
Nobody is comparing u to the alz sellers, they just complain that they use stolen credit cards to buy items in the shop... Just read Kru's post few lines above...

And another thing is: For me a chance to buy f.e. BB from a player is great because i would never buy it on my own... just a waste of money for me, and im not that rich to buy every little thing i need or like for real cash... So if They make all items acc bind it will be a big loss for me... and i think not only for me
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And in other MMOīs is sometimes a limit 4... and?, you can make 6 characters per Server, more than enough.
For you perhaps, not for me.

Added, item-bind will be part of the update, why shouldnt we discuss this?

I often buy itemshop stuff for friends ingame who either have no payment option, or are too young to even have a bit of cash (age 12 and up). But where to draw the line, what will be next? Dungeon cards? BB's? Boards i can imaging due the high price they can go (same for the outfits, the capes etc), but what about epaulette boxes, or core boxes? Or even potions (lvl3 auto pot or dex/str pots)?

Issue here, nobody has hard numbers on paying players who will buy drasticly less if more items become account-binded, neither on free players that buy the itemshop items of people that sell em (indirectly they are paying customers too).

Ironicly, since the uproar of the 'maybe' removal of pvp-betting, PoH's in Mercury suddenly went up 500-700k (cheapest i found now was 2.8, most are 3mil now). GM choice affect game, game affect economy, economy affect players, players affect GM. 1 biggy circle

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The limit for buff critical rate is 25% and total limit is 50%.
Can you try to get us some info on the suposed critical rate/dmg resistance that some ppl say the mobs have?
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Can you try to get us some info on the suposed critical rate/dmg resistance that some ppl say the mobs have?
Sure I can try it.

But please keep in mind that we are currently really busy with the updat and all the testing because we want to get it ready for the next week.

So I will com back later to this one.

However when you still didn't get an answer from me one week after the update went live you are allow to shout and remind me official on this forum.
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